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98 hoe 08-01-2011 07:57 PM

finally looking into the motor noise
 
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started preping for the motor removal on the 95 today got the harness all unplugged the accessories off and the cooling system out, along with the trans. only thing left is the exhaust and motor mounts. waiting for a cherry pick hopefully have one by mid week.

ebs 08-01-2011 10:41 PM

woo! go ben!

ls6monte 08-01-2011 11:26 PM

Have fun Ben!

98 hoe 08-01-2011 11:43 PM

yea im thrilled all i got left is the exhaust and motor mounts then pull her out and tear her down. drained the oil no big metal shavings noticed.

941LE 08-02-2011 12:19 AM

Might as well get some long tubes while your in there.

98 hoe 08-02-2011 12:24 AM

i agree totally. any suggestions on maker

ILuvPizzaTimes10 08-02-2011 02:03 AM

my pacesetters fit really well. and you should pull the intake or you are gunna have a bitch of a time getting it over the rad support.

98 hoe 08-02-2011 02:08 AM

yea i kinda figured that ill do that tomorrow before i pull it. ill have to look into the pacesetters. long tubes right

ILuvPizzaTimes10 08-02-2011 02:09 AM

yeah long tube. everything else you might as well keep the manifolds.

98 hoe 08-02-2011 02:11 AM

ok ill keep that in mind

98 hoe 08-02-2011 02:11 AM

what do u recommend for a street clutch and a short throw

ILuvPizzaTimes10 08-02-2011 02:14 AM

i have a cheap ass fidanza short throw i got from ebay. lasted me 4 years and all i did was take it apart grease it up RELLY good and cut the stick a little shorter. do i recomend it on a Budget? yeah But if you can afford a Good Shifter get one. i Love the stock hurst base though.

and i havent been in the market in a long time for a clutch but Spec last i checked was the best LT1 clutch.

irockidz28 08-02-2011 05:27 PM

nice! ill be around later on. give me a call if your workin on it

Grovlet 08-03-2011 02:21 AM

For shifters - The MGW Short Throw seems to be the cream of the crop recently, and it definitely appears to be badass. I've got the SLP Hurst Shifter and Lou's Short Stick which also rocks. But if I was doing it now I think the MGW is cheaper overall and looks to be better quality.

For Clutch - I love my Spec Stage 2+ But if you need more holding power go 3+. Essentially the + is the non puck version of each stage, meaning it's a little less on/off but still holds the rated power level.

98 hoe 08-03-2011 11:58 AM

Thanks ill have to look into those 2

941LE 08-05-2011 02:46 AM

i like pizza went with the fidanza. I had no issues with it and loved it. Cant hurt that it was also cheap. I got a Spec stg 2+ for my LT1 but never got around to installing it. To bad i sold it already.

98 hoe 08-05-2011 02:56 AM

Yea I would have baught it but too late

98 hoe 08-08-2011 02:11 AM

Got the motor out tonight ill just have to tear it down now. Wish me luck

ILuvPizzaTimes10 08-08-2011 03:25 AM

if you need anything lemme know. i think we still have a short block stuffed away in 94 Mikes Shed?

98 hoe 08-09-2011 01:33 AM

well i got the motor apart tonight number 8 cylinder spun a bearing that explains the oil pressure lose and knock comin from the motor. lookin at the crank and rod the surfaces dont have any noticable scores or scratches have to mic them tomorrow may be able to throw bearings and an oil pump on it it close the bottom end.

ILuvPizzaTimes10 08-09-2011 01:38 AM

you should get the rods checked/ re sized everytime you pull a cap. and have the crank turned .010. it really wont cost much and you wont run the risk of.... it LOOK ok and its not. mic-ing it only tells you half the story. dont forget all the metal that is now up inside the oil passages of the crank and block.

98 hoe 08-09-2011 01:43 AM

im gunna get the block washed and hot tanked

SLP IROC-Z 08-09-2011 01:45 AM

why not just throw a good used motor in it?

98 hoe 08-09-2011 01:56 AM

they want alot of cash it only has 88k. idk im thinkin rebuild the mottorm end a 306 cam pushrods and 1.6 rollers along with lt and ory.

My84Z 08-09-2011 02:52 AM

If u do a 306 do a hydrarev kit and a tune cause that cam needs rpm. A cc305 is perfect for a mild setup though

98 hoe 08-09-2011 02:58 AM

I would deff do a tune never heard of a hydrarev kit. What's that all about?

My84Z 08-09-2011 03:01 AM

http://www.ls1lt1.com/forum/lt1-%7C-...-rev-kits.html

ILuvPizzaTimes10 08-09-2011 03:32 AM

Yeah your gunna need almost 7000 rpm to get that cam to peak. If its out id change it. It also tunes like shit with out bigg cubes to calm it down on the street.

941LE 08-09-2011 01:04 PM

id go for a 503 cam if i were you. Love the idle on it

98 hoe 08-09-2011 01:39 PM

Is that what u had? Did u have to do any head work ie springs?

941LE 08-09-2011 01:57 PM

i had a 304 with just 1.5 RRs. My cam was made for a stock tune. The 503 cam works well with ported heads, intake, springs and 1.6 rrs. Search through LTxtech. Youll find some info on what they run with it.

98 hoe 08-09-2011 02:44 PM

Ok thanks

ILuvPizzaTimes10 08-10-2011 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by 98 hoe (Post 53501)
Is that what u had? Did u have to do any head work ie springs?

any cam you get aside from a CC304 cam will need new springs. and it will need the RIGHT springs.

My84Z 08-10-2011 01:36 AM

Any cam you should get springs for it I wouldn't trust the stockers with anything bigger. Also i am partial but i still say cc305

98 hoe 09-06-2011 09:57 PM

I got the short block from sucidleracing took it apart monday and cleaned the pistons today and found the exact same thing wrong as my motor the space between the 2 comprression rings on piston number 1 is broken I mean I can take a 3 inch long piece of piston skirt out anyone see this before? Both motors same problem both ran when pulled. Idk

irockidz28 09-06-2011 10:40 PM

well atleast the rest of it looked better then your motor lol

98 hoe 09-07-2011 12:02 AM

True that

ILuvPizzaTimes10 09-07-2011 12:09 AM

then swap out from your motor piston number 2 rod and piston. get a ball hone an hone the cylinders get a new set of rings Dont use the old ones at this point. and by rights if you take the rods apart/take the caps off your supposed to get them checked for size. you should be alright its not a 10k rpm screamer but just keep that in mind. i usually check them myself by getting soft jaws for a vice. clamp the rod in the vise snug enough you cant budge it but dont CRANK down. re torque the cap back on to spec. and then check the inside diameter for out of round. usually they will squeeze in near the bolt areas. if they are too tight you will need to get them re sized. honestly you should have left it together and just bolted it in.

also look it up but depending on year the rod bolts were not reusable.

98 hoe 09-07-2011 12:25 AM

Yea I am gunna replace all the rod bearing so I'm gettin them measured for proper bearings and I figured I could get 8 good pistons and rods out of the 16 I have

ILuvPizzaTimes10 09-07-2011 12:27 AM

yeah thats what id do. just weigh them to make sure they are close in weight for balance.


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