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camarokid91 05-28-2013 11:36 PM

Making a spoiler
 
I have been fooling around with the idea of making a lexsan spoiler for autocross and roadracing. Here is what I have done so far. It will be similar to the blainefab design but much cheaper to build than to order.

http://www.blainefabrication.com/pro...rbig3_web2.jpg

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-g...528_192003.jpg

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-R...528_191655.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-p...528_192009.jpg

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-t...528_191945.jpg

Z28 05-29-2013 02:50 AM

I say leave it as is, I've always like the whole cardboard look. Only down side is you can't drive in the rain

My84Z 05-29-2013 02:53 AM

I think it looks like shit but if you like it and think it will make a differnce then go for it

camarokid91 05-29-2013 03:37 AM

I think I'm gonna get a donor hatch and not wreck mine. I think the blaine fab spoiler looks awesome and it also is very functional. You will see them on hundreds of CMC cars.

Motaboata 05-29-2013 04:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by camarokid91 (Post 80864)
I think I'm gonna get a donor hatch and not wreck mine. I think the blaine fab spoiler looks awesome and it also is very functional. You will see them on hundreds of CMC cars.

i have a black z28 hatch... 50 bucks picked up its yours!~ located in northern ri

frankzlt1 05-29-2013 10:11 AM

You think you will be going fast enough for it to function. Then your going to need a front splitter to get front down force, if your going fast enough to lose front grip.

KLAB 05-29-2013 02:19 PM

Probably more of a looks and its cool thing than functional. If you go fast enough to need rear downforce the front end lifts from the design of the radiator. Haven't you hit the brick wall at like 140 yet? lol but you will prob make a front one too.

The rod ends and linkages look cool like NASCAR style, where did you get those?

camarokid91 05-29-2013 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KLAB (Post 80868)
Probably more of a looks and its cool thing than functional. If you go fast enough to need rear downforce the front end lifts from the design of the radiator. Haven't you hit the brick wall at like 140 yet? lol but you will prob make a front one too.

The rod ends and linkages look cool like NASCAR style, where did you get those?

Lowes lol

I still throwing the idea around. I can pretty much return everything but the angle iron I cut up.

DAWG 05-29-2013 11:24 PM

unless your going 140 to 180 they do absolutely nothing.
And they give the car a Ricer look (sorry).

frankzlt1 05-29-2013 11:52 PM

I would think way less than 140 for it to start functioning, obviously the faster you go thre more down force.

ILuvPizzaTimes10 05-30-2013 12:40 AM

with out a front splitter it would just create more nose lift at lower speeds. but for auto-x what speeds do you hit? 40 50? at those speeds you barely notice i bet.

KLAB 05-30-2013 02:19 AM

I bet it will look cool, keep at it. Pretty interesting.

ZFreie 05-30-2013 10:51 AM

I thought aero started to come into play around 60-80 and increase from there, thats where ive noticed it in any car ive owned anywho.

Like car vs truck, ive had many a slow roll wih them and stay dead even till around thoes speeds and then i would start to creep away. This was not the camaro vs trucks lol

camarokid91 05-30-2013 01:28 PM

Well an Acr viper can create this sort of down force

http://www.imgbond.com/pictures/269/...5068374_sw.jpg

Most nation car in AX have a 10 inch spoiler in the rear. I am choosing to go with 7 because it outdoes look as ridiculous and should provide some sort of functionality. I understand the faster you go the more downforce is created but I dont think this would be a case where I would need a front spliter. I think the fastest I have hit autocrossing was about 66 mph on a corner.

Here is the car that has won nationals 4 times and best pax time overall 3 times.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-4...0/DSC01162.JPG

Also as I stated earlier if decide to trash the project I will only be out 12 dollars on angle iron. My investment in this is minimal at best and I'm still on the fence about proceeding. I am just working on this as a time waster instead of playing video games lol.

ILuvPizzaTimes10 05-30-2013 01:39 PM

wow im impressed that it would actually work at such low speeds. id like to see a track time same day with it flat vs. up to see if it Really helps!!

KLAB 05-30-2013 05:42 PM

I wish my school had a bigger wind tunnel so I could do my capstone on this lol. Instead we have one to play with model planes.

:klab:

Motaboata 05-30-2013 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KLAB (Post 80904)
I wish my school had a bigger wind tunnel so I could do my capstone on this lol. Instead we have one to play with model planes.

:klab:

Model cars? Make Wings etc

Z28 05-30-2013 09:38 PM

That t/a is hawt

LSX-Nation 05-31-2013 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KLAB (Post 80888)
I bet it will look cool, keep at it. Pretty interesting.

I agree..

Looking at the chart it looks like it would help your grip on the higher speed auto cross turns 40-70 mph. Every Tenth counts.

Formula413 05-31-2013 01:41 AM

I wonder if maybe the front splitter isn't as important because of the tendency of these cars to oversteer.

camarokid91 05-31-2013 12:49 PM

"Considering the rear of a Fox gutted for autoX is very light, even small amounts of downforce e.g. 50-100 lbs makes a noticeable difference in rear stability and grip. "

From a mustang esp forum. lol. I think it is because camaros and mustangs and vettes have more power than they can actually apply to the ground so every bit helps, I would assume.

ILuvPizzaTimes10 06-01-2013 01:52 AM

http://bespoke.wpengine.netdna-cdn.c...-wth-Amuse.jpg

just make one of these?

Formula413 06-01-2013 02:19 AM

Bwahahahahawhatthefuck

ILuvPizzaTimes10 06-02-2013 01:18 AM

hahah yeah even the guy is like WTF!?

camarokid91 06-02-2013 03:21 AM

LMAO.

Wings are not class legal spoilers are.


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