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Slowhawk 11-03-2009 12:51 AM

Well,the car has the subframe in.Got screwed on the paint and intake,won't be here till next week.Car is still on the lift on won't come off till it's running........

ls6monte 11-03-2009 01:04 AM

At least your making progress, albeit probably slower than you want to.

My84Z 11-03-2009 01:45 AM

Time is money!!!

Slowhawk 11-03-2009 03:51 AM

It friggin sucks waiting.I've had a few open days which the car could of been driving by now...

I want it done to hit ATCO...

ILuvPizzaTimes10 11-03-2009 04:29 AM

wen are you going to ATCO!?!?! ill head down with you if possible.

Slowhawk 11-03-2009 06:22 PM

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sciff5 11-03-2009 10:42 PM

a c5r 427 block with et heads?

Can I get a ride?

Batman 11-03-2009 10:58 PM

Yeah I am surprised by the ETP heads, did you do the porting on them? I've heard alot of mixed things about them. I do see you got the good truck coils for it though......

Slowhawk 11-04-2009 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Batman (Post 3660)
Yeah I am surprised by the ETP heads, did you do the porting on them? I've heard alot of mixed things about them. I do see you got the good truck coils for it though......

The ETP heads are one of the best heads out there from all the testing we did.They worked better than TFS and AFR's.The problem with them was the valve springs were weak so we just changed them the a better dual.Another bad part is they went under too.

These got fully hand ported by Rich at WCCH.They were 225 heads and now are at 235cc running 2.125" intake valves.Springs are the new TSP .700 lift shimmed for my .640" lift Cam.

Hopefully my Edelbrok Super Victor intake shows up so I can port match that and get this motor back in the car.

ls6monte 11-04-2009 01:08 AM

Looking very nice Don!

c4boom 11-04-2009 01:26 AM

so don what you going to do for a hood or did you figure out some super low elbow to make it work.

My84Z 11-04-2009 02:22 AM

Looks good with all those doodads and shiney things lol so I heard that was my motor :) early xmas present lol

Batman 11-04-2009 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Slowhawk (Post 3666)
The ETP heads are one of the best heads out there from all the testing we did.They worked better than TFS and AFR's.The problem with them was the valve springs were weak so we just changed them the a better dual.Another bad part is they went under too.

These got fully hand ported by Rich at WCCH.They were 225 heads and now are at 235cc running 2.125" intake valves.Springs are the new TSP .700 lift shimmed for my .640" lift Cam.

Hopefully my Edelbrok Super Victor intake shows up so I can port match that and get this motor back in the car.

I know flow wise they rock and make good power, just know a few people who have had problems with them, I would guess you probably know more about massaging them then they did. I know 2 people that had problems fitting an intake manifold to them (unmilled), but that was a few years ago, maybe it's been fixed.

Batman 11-04-2009 03:43 AM

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Originally Posted by c4boom (Post 3669)
so don what you going to do for a hood or did you figure out some super low elbow to make it work.

Edelbrock makes an elbow that will clear the bird hood, I'm guessing he got that or something similar

ILuvPizzaTimes10 11-04-2009 04:46 AM

i dont think he uses the Edelbrock Elbow. i think he sed and DOnt quote me but he sed someone picked up a ton of power using a sheetmetal elbow over the swedged down edelbrock one??

c4boom 11-04-2009 04:52 AM

i would love to see how a stock cube heads mild cam (228-236) car would work with that intake who knows may be the fast is just a big money pit

ILuvPizzaTimes10 11-04-2009 07:33 AM

Hey Old Guy!!! Yes You DON!!! ATCO!!!???

Batman 11-04-2009 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by c4boom (Post 3676)
i would love to see how a stock cube heads mild cam (228-236) car would work with that intake who knows may be the fast is just a big money pit

Keep believing that.....that intake is great for a big cube engine, the Victor is just too big for a 346 unless you have a ridiculous race only cam. It's like putting a 103MM Fast on.

c4boom 11-04-2009 04:11 PM

I was thinking more on the lines of a vic JR I know the supper vic is way to big unless you where to be spinning the thing to 8500

Slowhawk 11-04-2009 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Batman (Post 3673)
Edelbrock makes an elbow that will clear the bird hood, I'm guessing he got that or something similar

I have the Edelbrok elbow here as a paper weight. Tried it on a 408 car the the Victor junior.Had problems wit hthe car making power.Switch to a sheetmetal elbow and picked up 100rwhp!!!!! That is not a misprint,Couldn't believe it my myself...

Edelbrok Elbow= CRAP.

Slowhawk 11-04-2009 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ILuvPizzaTimes10 (Post 3678)
Hey Old Guy!!! Yes You DON!!! ATCO!!!???

Don't get your panties in a bunch. Need my car done first.

Slowhawk 11-04-2009 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by c4boom (Post 3669)
so don what you going to do for a hood or did you figure out some super low elbow to make it work.

Screw the hood,it's getting cut if needed.

c4boom 11-04-2009 05:50 PM

if that's the case y not just go with a 4brl throttle body and a carb hat for the street then pull it at the track ?

Batman 11-04-2009 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by c4boom (Post 3684)
I was thinking more on the lines of a vic JR I know the supper vic is way to big unless you where to be spinning the thing to 8500

even the Vic JR is pretty beefy for a 346, the FAST will crush it on the low end

Formula413 11-04-2009 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ILuvPizzaTimes10 (Post 3631)
wen are you going to ATCO!?!?! ill head down with you if possible.

Road trip!!!

Slowhawk 11-04-2009 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by c4boom (Post 3690)
if that's the case y not just go with a 4brl throttle body and a carb hat for the street then pull it at the track ?

Because you have to take out the wipers and cut the lower window cowl wide open.

Slowhawk 11-04-2009 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Batman (Post 3693)
even the Vic JR is pretty beefy for a 346, the FAST will crush it on the low end

I agree but if you running a stalled auto the Vic junior might give better ET's.

I'm running the Victor because the low end loss doesn't matter since the engine will be singing 5800-7000rpm at the track.

ILuvPizzaTimes10 11-05-2009 01:14 AM

So basically it all depends on the application of the engine to denote what intake to use. and would you recomend it for a 346 street/strip would be the next question? im asking because i also want to use one on my motor. BUT you dont have the experience with the LT's so i ask about the LS instead haha

My84Z 11-05-2009 01:33 AM

it would depend on how radical the h/c is Mike avg h/c a fast is plenty but for a more wild set up the carb is better. carb setup is made for a higher rpm powerband and less down low. However I really don't think the stock lt1 intake is that bad atleast until the 550+ range.

ILuvPizzaTimes10 11-05-2009 01:50 AM

See and thats why i dont want to change it!! haha i just want to find the bottle necks. theres no need for that thing to fall on its face at 5500 like it does! Sorry for the Highjack Don!!

Batman 11-05-2009 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Slowhawk (Post 3700)
I agree but if you running a stalled auto the Vic junior might give better ET's.

I'm running the Victor because the low end loss doesn't matter since the engine will be singing 5800-7000rpm at the track.

Very true, should have prefaced it with "A street car", vic JR would be good in a big cam high stall race application where low end isn't a necessity

Slowhawk 11-05-2009 02:01 AM

Someday I'll take the time and actually test back - back a FAST against a Carb intake while the car sit's on the dyno.Would like to see what it does on a 346ci.

Batman 11-05-2009 02:38 AM

I've seen it with the GMPP intake and FAST 90 once, the GMPP intake made about 15 more up top with an 850, but the FAST had a better curve and Average power, not sure how they would have been against each other at the track. I am also willing to bet the FAST is alot more efficient in a street or street/strip application, But I do love the feeling of big secondaries opening up on a 4 BBl :)

Slowhawk 11-05-2009 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Batman (Post 3726)
I've seen it with the GMPP intake and FAST 90 once, the GMPP intake made about 15 more up top with an 850, but the FAST had a better curve and Average power, not sure how they would have been against each other at the track. I am also willing to bet the FAST is alot more efficient in a street or street/strip application, But I do love the feeling of big secondaries opening up on a 4 BBl :)

But if you use a 90 degree elbow that works as a runner which can promote midrange power.

c4boom 11-05-2009 02:16 PM

too bad the dam pro flow is only use full in trucks and swaps what the hell where they thinking when they made that thing if they made it a bit shorter there sales would go up 10 fold.

BrokenFeather78 11-06-2009 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Batman (Post 3726)
I've seen it with the GMPP intake and FAST 90 once, the GMPP intake made about 15 more up top with an 850, but the FAST had a better curve and Average power, not sure how they would have been against each other at the track. I am also willing to bet the FAST is alot more efficient in a street or street/strip application, But I do love the feeling of big secondaries opening up on a 4 BBl :)


I love carbs. Don't care if they are less efficient!!!!

Slowhawk 11-06-2009 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by c4boom (Post 3782)
too bad the dam pro flow is only use full in trucks and swaps what the hell where they thinking when they made that thing if they made it a bit shorter there sales would go up 10 fold.

The Pro Flow looks good but from what I've told it's not very great on the power department.

c4boom 11-06-2009 01:48 AM

probably due to the runners being so long the thing chokes on the top end sort of like the TPI cars. i wonder if some one chopped an inch or two out of the runners weld it back up and port match the runners back together if it would work. I would think it should pull a bit better sort of like a sheet metal intake with smaller ports.

Slowhawk 11-23-2009 09:16 PM

Engine bay is done,tranny is here and still waiting on the intake.... Should have it done by next summer...

Batman 11-23-2009 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Slowhawk (Post 5010)
Engine bay is done,tranny is here and still waiting on the intake.... Should have it done by next summer...

LOL, I know that feeling.....


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