best bet is to show him the money! (your best offer)
ill bet he will take it.
thats how I bought my car for the price i wanted years ago.
placed a wad of 100s infront of the guy .
in defense of the owner there is so many bullshitters out there wanting to buy but dont have the cash and are just wasting everyones time.
take a good flashlight and inspection mirror with you.
by now you should know the rust prone areas of a first gen camaro.
a couple bad areas often overlooked is :
rear window lower edge under molding.
bottom edge of front window all along the upper dash.
take a note pad and document the rust areas or bondo.
then negotiate a price from there .

Going to Florida next Wed. If it works out, I might sell the 68 next year unless I can find out a way to store it at my house.

put it on the lift??
park you DD underneath?
I park my cars like that for years.

Won't work....

1 camaro on the lift + 1 camaro under the lift + 1 wife's DD = 1 camaro outside

friggin property is too small to put a big shed on it and I really don't want to put one in a storage unit.

The only good news is that at the rate the restoration shop is going, I have about a year to figure out what to do with the 68.

carport????

How about another lift? Any room to put a car on dollies and park it crossways? Add on to the garage? Enclosed car trailer ? (I almost went this route, but just ordered a storage building from Kloter Farms instead)?

The other option is to have the wife's DD outside - but I'm sure you already know the downsides of this. I owned 4 cars before I got married and had already established parking priority. I was lucky that the house I bought before getting married had a 36x36 garage. With that said, my wife's car is in the garage while my old Dodge pickup sits outside.:)

The wife's car has to be inside unless I'm looking for a divorce....HA. She is not the greatest parker and has hit the side of the garage backing out before so I can't put her under a lift. That would be a disaster. Plus, she has been real cool about me getting a 3rd Camaro so I would feel like an ass having her park outside or under a lift.

I like the storage building idea and have thought about this one a lot but I would probably need to have my property surveyed and then apply to the town for a variance. How big is your storage building?

a co worker of mine put a put a kloter single car garage on his property without any permits or surveying.
had electric installed and has a wood floor.
good for storage.
call any shed people they got the answer you seek.
I could possibly give ya temp storage over the winter?
ill run it by the boss lol.

An outdoor garage would be great, but I don't know how far I could push it. I think I would need a 20' by 10' which is pretty big.

One option would be to order it and have it put in place, but the downside would be the possibility of the town telling me to take it back out.

I thought you were pretty packed for space. I don't want your wife coming after me LOL.

I benn looking into a shed myself for storage of the tractor and firewood etc.
then ill have 2 open garages.
1 for sure!

http://www.kingcanopy.com/content/garage-canopies.asp
^should solve a problem if you park it in front of the door the lift is on then all will be fine. esp for the winter.

or you can do this
garage for those with little space <link

I just ordered a 10' x 20' from Kloter. They can put a garage door on it, but it a slightly smaller than normal door and measures 8.5' x 6.5'. Kloter doesn't do the permit - you will need to - but they give you the info you need. Here in EG, as long as the shed doesn't exceed 200 square feet, you can put it fairly close to your house and property line. Something like 10' from the house and 6' from a property line. I just completed the permit today and the shed should be here at the beginning of August.

Just make sure that you actually get a copy of your town's building regulations and know the requirements for sheds. You may also need approval from the Farmington Valley Health District. They seem to be most interested in where the shed is relative to a well or septic system.

For the canopy, I would still get worried about moisture and rust eating the car from the bottom up. Also, I can't park it in front of the garage lift area since that is the spot my wife backs into when she is backing out her car.

The Cardok is awesome, but real pricey. My favorite comment is: "when your final moments come, you can get in your favorite car and 'bury' yourself and save on funeral expenses!!!"

How much was the 10'x20'?

The next step for me would be to go talk to the town "Building Official / Zoning Enforcement".

Well, I didn't want to get just any old shed. I got the Garden Series Cape with the 8' wide insulated Heritage overhead door w/windows, 8' wide ramp, double aluminum transom windows on each side, heavy duty floor, and a single side door. I also got the site prep package. Everything came to $6k. You can save yourself a lot of money by not getting the overhead door option, prepping your own sire, or getting a more basic building. I think they have a fairly basic 10x20 shed for about $3500.

It sounds real nice and the price is about what I would expect. If it's going in soon, it would cool to see some pictures.

I'll be in Florida tomorrow and hopefully everything looks good.

im curious David?
how the trip go??

So on to figuring out where to park it:ls1queenbitch:

Have you told the wife she gets to park outside yet?:haha::69:

Congrats:party:

I guess that answers that question!

Holy cow! shes a beaut!

nice!
I hope ya got it for a good price?CYA sunday morning!!!!!

Price was as expected. No discounts or anything but the numbers match and he had the car since 1974 when he got out of the military.

Body is solid with only surface rust.

I'm still at the airport in FL with the droid and won't be home until sometime after midnight. See you Sunday.

cool I expect to see plenty of pics!!!!

Can i have one?

Thanks for the feedback!!!

I ended up getting in around 2:30 AM and I feel wiped.

I have a few more pics. Here is a pic of the former owner on his last drive.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...-22-49_258.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...-30-28_778.jpg

what did transport run ya???

$1300

first thing that gotta go is that ugly painted front bumper.
btw Congrats on the new addition to the family!!!!

Thanks! But the original Endura bumper has to stay!

See, I told you that you would end up with it.
Good thing the weather is nice enough for your wife to park outside and not be too upset - well, until the first time it is pouring rain.

A rust free body will be a nice starting point. At least wait until my car is done before you drop it off for Mike & his crew to have at it.

You hit that one exactly right!!! It'll get parked on the lift for now so I can still drive the 68 and Kerrie's car can also be parked inside.

I still have to figure out a master plan. Step 1 will probably be to have it certified by Jerry M.

I would like to keep the exterior in "survivor" condition with the original paint. It is not exactly pretty, but I like it the way it is.

I definitely have to do something with the surface rust on the entire undercarriage and I would like to have the engine rebuilt/restored.

Congrats on your new addition dave. Im surprised it didn't have a cowl hood.

Thanks! It looks like only 10% probably came from the factory with a cowl hood.

According to CRG:
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Cowl hood (ZL2): The cowl hood was an option on SS and Z28 models in 1969 and was included on all COPO's and Pace Cars. It was introduced midyear 69. #1 ZL1, built 12E at Norwood is one of the first Camaros to have a factory ZL2 hood. A late December LOS-built Z28 with ZL2 has also been documented.

The ZL2 option included a solenoid and flapper in the hood. The wiring for the solenoid was routed through a special hole in firewall above the fuseblock. Only 10,026 cars received cowl hoods in 69 and about half of those went to COPO's and Pace Cars, meaning there were only 5,000 Z28's and SS's (out of about 20,000 Z28's and 30,000 non-Pacer SS's) that received the cowl hood.

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Loads of people were putting them on after though because they look great.

nice! congrats! thats a sweet car

Do you know how many were produced with 302s. I like that its a survivor car. The color of the car is different.

Thanks Maddie! I really like that it still has it's original paint.

Jack had some original pics of the car and a couple pics of when he bought it in 1974. It had Cragars on it when he bought it but the tires were too large and were rubbing all the time so he put GM rally wheels back on it. The code on the wheels were the only thing that I found that did not match an original 69 Z/28.

Jack was protective with the pics and he did not want me to take them. I took cell phone pics of them though.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...-03-18_742.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...-03-54_967.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...-03-42_254.jpg

All 69 Z/28's had the 302 so at least 20,000.

No kidding, I always thought it was special order because the 350 I thought came out in 69.

from wikipedia (probably not the worlds greatest camaro info source):

"The Z/28 option code was introduced in December 1966 for the 1967 model year. It was the brainchild of Vince Piggins, who conceived offering "virtually race-ready" Camaros for sale from any Chevrolet dealer.[1] This option package was not mentioned in any sales literature, so it was unknown to most buyers.[2] The Z/28 option required power front disc brakes and a Muncie 4-speed manual transmission. It featured a 302 cu in (4.9 L) small-block V-8 engine."

"The engine was designed specifically to race in the Trans Am series (which required engines smaller than 305 cu in (5.0 L) and public availability of the car. "

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrol...st_generation)

....and I'm glad you like the colors. When I first saw it, the paint looks to be in real rough shape and I thought I would repaint it. But most likely I will try to do a touch up in the spots where the paint has come off.