http://www.huntsmachine.com/383ss01p3.html found some good info here. just read parts of it but it better explains what i mean. David talk to your engine guy. he will/better know all of this and will point you in the best direction for a stock appearing engine rebuild to run pump gas 93 octane which is what i recommend.
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Btw i took this from a 302 motor builder who races nastalgia classes and stock race classes
In my experience the actual compression ratio on most of the "original" 302s was lucky to be 10 to 1, although they were rated at 11.0. I usually had to deck the the block to legal specs, and mill a bunch from the heads to get them to min (again legal) ccs, and the 11 to 1 comp ratio. In my opinion its just hard to get comp in small engines. |
David either way just rebuild it stock cause obviously that is the whole reason you bought the car and just put it on a dyno or have the
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great time to freshen up the heater blower and the heater core lol!
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Should I get a new heater core from Ricks though? It would be terrible to put an old one in and have it leak. Ricks has this one for $60. Part number HC-20 http://htsmall.rickscamaros.com/asse.../sku/HC-20.jpg |
get a new one, infact
get a spare like I did! you have 2 69s now. I have a heater assy with cables and controls if ya need it? come check out the heater core aswell cuz i didnt really need it lol. |
OK. l'll call you and stop by sometime soon. I'll buy the heater core off you.
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I picked up a BadBoy Vacuum recovery portable Media blaster. Found it on Craigslist for $225.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...oy-blaster.jpg I also found my first nasty through-hole on the body on the passenger side fender near the bottom. I poked at it for a while and then cleaned it up with a dremel. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...1-05-27_47.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...-03-44_538.jpg I took the the passenger side inner and outer fenders off to start cleaning them up. My father-in-law and I welded in a new piece about an hour ago. It still needs some work. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...-36-13_952.jpg |
damn that looks nasty hope there arent too many more of those!
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---------------------------------------------------------- A lot of the parts were replaced in the 302 DZ. The cam had been changed. I think it might be a Crane cam. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...-15-03_872.jpg http://www.cranecams.com/product/car...detail&p=23891 One of the lobes was wiped out. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...-15-25_912.jpg Norm is going to change it to an exact equivalent of the original 30/30 with a Comp Cams kit #CL12-107-3. Cam Style Mechanical flat tappet Basic Operating RPM Range 2,800-6,800 Intake Duration at 050 inch Lift 254 Exhaust Duration at 050 inch Lift 254 Duration at 050 inch Lift 254 int./254 exh. Advertised Intake Duration 346 Advertised Exhaust Duration 346 Advertised Duration 346 int./346 exh. Intake Valve Lift with Factory Rocker Arm Ratio 0.485 in. Exhaust Valve Lift with Factory Rocker Arm Ratio 0.485 in. Valve Lift with Factory Rocker Arm Ratio 0.485 int./0.485 exh. Lobe Separation (degrees) 114 Camshaft Gear Attachment 3-bolt Intake Valve Lash 0.024 in. Exhaust Valve Lash 0.024 in. Grind Number 346S Pic of the block http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...-20-26_461.jpg One of the guys working there said the double roller chain on the crankshaft is not correct. I looked it up and stock is supposed to be timing chain (3896961), crank sprocket (3896959) and cam sprocket (3896960). http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...-40-14_349.jpg Oil pump is not stock: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...-37-54_685.jpg |
is that cam an eco fuel saver cam. lol
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that sucks. alot of work tracking down OE parts? but is now the time to drop in a better cam more technological cam but similar lope to a stocker.
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The spec sheet page is here: http://www.compcams.com/Company/CC/c...px?csid=3&sb=2 |
IMO I would put an equivlent roller cam in.
less chance for lobe wipe and itll free up some HP. but if you do go with an original make sure you use zinc additive in the oil or else itll wipe a lobe sooner than later. |
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hjust run rotella 15w 40. has the zinc in it already no need to buy a seperate additive.
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last year Rotella cut back on the zinc so it isnt as good as it used to be.
read up here: http://www.thumpertalk.com/forum/arc.../t-449335.html David thats why I have those little bottles of ZDDP. I gave ya one to put in your 68. |
yeah i was just reading that^^ chevron delo is good to use. still has 1500ppm of zddp.
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Amsoil now makes a Zinc Added Synthetic:
Z-Rod 20W-50 They say 'High Zinc', and I did find a dealer quote: 'The TSB lists that these oils have zinc – 1440 ppm, phosphorus 1320 ppm' So knowing Amsoil's reputation, this may be a nice option:Tigger::sCh_sonic: Edit: Found the TSB: Amsoil Flat Tappet and Lobe Lubrication TSB |
ouch 10.20 a quart????
but at least there is something out there. I seen some use golden spectro (motorcycle oil) has very high zinc. |
spectro is nice too. id say just get the chevron delo. its cheap and has the same content as amsoil for less then half the cost.
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thks Pizza the delo does have some good zinc numbers.
at least the 10W30 does heres the specs http://shorelinefuel.com/msds/delooil_msds.pdf |
If you join the Amsoil 'Preferred Customer Program' ($20/year at most), it drops the price to ~$7.50/qt., which is still not cheap, but at least palatable.
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This week, I primered one of the inner fenders with an epoxy 2K primer. It came in a rattle can and worked out nice.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...-02-41_908.jpg The subframe is off and is in my garage right now: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...-30-11_189.jpg The engine is looking good and will probably be fired up soon: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...-38-45_206.jpg I brought a whole bunch of subframe parts (and some other parts) to Labrecque Autocraft for Mike to rebuild the front end: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...-03-56_833.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...-04-18_419.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...-03-14_533.jpg The body is about to go on the body cart: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...-50-57_647.jpg The underside is fairly clean: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...2-35_150-1.jpg But I found two small rust spots on the side of the body near the bottom. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...-55-29_497.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...-57-01_182.jpg Except for these two spots, I think the rest of the body is A-OK. |
I saw a green first gen at Marks last night and I thought it might be yours but then I remembered it was in pieces haha. You really put a lot of attention into detail with your cars, I'm sure this one will turn out great too.
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I try to do the best I can with the detail work, but the only real thing that ever really gets me is rust. I just hate it. -------------------------------------------------- Rust Edit: On the inner fender, I ground off most of the surface rust with a 3M SandBlaster 9681 4-1/2-Inch Coarse Clean-N-Strip Disc: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000BQURDI Then, for the spots I couldn't reach, I used Ospho. I read in a whole bunch of postings that: a) when you use Ospho, you shouldn't use an etching primer b) when you are primering bare metal, you should not use Eastwood Rust Encapsulator paint c) use an epoxy primer For epoxy primer, I went with Spray Max Epoxy Primer: http://www.eastwood.com/spray-max-ep...r-aerosol.html |
all good stuff!!!! Good Luck with it. that motor looks AWESOME!!!
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they sell 50 gal barrels of the fuel (leaded or unleaded) better off with the leaded gas, those lead additives are not so great. |
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If your interested David, my friend is selling a new drum of C16. I'm not sure on price but I can find out if you want me to.
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Engine is done, but Norm is out this week. Should be on the dyno next week.
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