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DAWG 07-17-2011 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DavidS (Post 51864)
HA!!! You found the only clean spot on the entire car.

lol isnt that the spot we worked on lol????

DavidS 07-17-2011 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DAWG (Post 51897)
lol isnt that the spot we worked on lol????

HA....Yep, the only decent spot on the car!

I spent a good part of the day today taking pics of numbers. Everything is looking A-OK so far. I called Jerry MacNeish earlier this week. He had an answering machine message saying he was recuperating from an operation or something.

I have started documenting everything with pictures in the same order his book has it. I'm not sure if this info is too boring to post.

Dawg....You used the quote that "a car is only original once" but this car in it's neglected and surface rust condition is pretty friggin original with two exceptions (so far, but there will probably be more as I check it further).

1 = smog removed and headers put in
2 = in 1974 Jack replaced the Cragars with GM rally wheels and the codes don't match 2nd week of January, 69 Z/28 wheels.

frankzlt1 07-18-2011 08:07 PM

I love lookin into the history of cars especially older mussel cars. I always seem to find interesting facts about different options that you never herd of. Good luck with it dave

DAWG 07-27-2011 01:31 PM

I hope ya got it registered and insured so i can see it!!!!

DavidS 07-27-2011 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DAWG (Post 52613)
I hope ya got it registered and insured so i can see it!!!!

Not yet. You are welcome to come over and check it out though.

jeff68 08-06-2011 02:32 AM

David-
My 10 x 20 shed arrived today. I'm very impressed with the quality. The site prep was done last week. The guy asked if I was going to put a car in it and I said No. He said you need to make sure that the ramp isn't too steep for a car. Didn't hink much of it until today - the ramp is too steep to get my old Wheel Horse 520H in it with the mower deck on. The deck gets caught up on the ramp/shed interface. I had to make a 24" long transition for between the ramp & shed (not shown in the pics). Anyhow, if you have any slope at all to your site, make sure to either get a longer ramp or have the guy prep the sire accordingly.

Here it is:
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...Aug2011006.jpg

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...Aug2011004.jpg

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...Aug2011005.jpg

DavidS 08-06-2011 07:39 AM

That looks great! It looks like a small barn near the house.

My site is fairly flat. They came out and they did the prep work yesterday even though the shed/garage is not due in until the 18th. The prep guys didn't ask about a car going in it.

I'll post up pics when it comes in and hopefully it looks as good as yours!

jeff68 08-06-2011 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by DavidS (Post 53219)
That looks great! It looks like a small barn near the house.

Thanks. That's the look we were going for, and several people have made the same comment. So, mission accomplished. Can't wait to see what your shed looks like.

ILuvPizzaTimes10 08-06-2011 01:38 PM

were did you go to buy it? quality looks great from the outside how about the inside? like will it take a hurricane?

Formula413 08-06-2011 01:46 PM

That really does look good. +1 on pics of the inside. Any overhead storage?

jeff68 08-06-2011 11:28 PM

The shed is from Kloter Farms in Ellington, CT. They are built down in PA (Amish country I suppose). Interior quality is excellent. Not one questionable quality stud or poor nailing job. I installed a 4' x 8' 'loft', but space is limited due to the relatively shallow pitch of the roof. Plenty of room otherwise. It will be neat to see David's Camaro in one of these sheds!

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...Aug2011007.jpg

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...Aug2011008.jpg

DavidS 08-16-2011 04:20 AM

Jeff,

Today was a spastic day. A couple issues with me encroaching on the neighbors property line with all my tree cutting. Did a bunch of raking, shoveling, pulling up roots, seeding, and covering things up while getting soaked. Then the shed came in and then Jerry Macneish came.

The good: Legit Z28, original drivetrain...engine, trans, etc.

The bad: bunch of little crap that has been changed over the last 42 years....f'd up wiring, harmonic balancer, one section on the underside that got dented, etc. etc. Jerry will send a full report in about a week.

The ugly: He said it should have a frame-off restoration, due to repainting in a bunch of sections and all the surface rust. He does restoration work on parts (he does not do body work/car restoration) and I had him take the brake booster, master cylinder and distributor with him. These items have incorrect replacements but Jack gave me the originals that had huge amounts of rust on them.

Boomer, If you are still looking for a 69 Z carb, I can PM you some info on matching the correct dates and what the jets and power valves should be.

The carb that is on the car now is a Holley Street Avenger and is nowhere near correct, but I found someone selling a date correct carb restored by Eric Jackson of Vintage Musclecar Parts so I bought his carb.

.....the next step is figuring out the restoration plan.

Also, I will get pics of the shed/garage up soon.

DAWG 08-16-2011 10:21 AM

geez david ya just cant get a break can ya?????
I feel for ya buddy!
in the end youll be happy as a pig in shit through!

DavidS 08-16-2011 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by DAWG (Post 53839)
geez david ya just cant get a break can ya?????
I feel for ya buddy!
in the end youll be happy as a pig in shit through!

It's actually not too bad Dawg. It is in driver condition and Jerry is talking about making it a show car.

The surface rust has to be taken care of though.

...and I have to keep finding the correct small parts like the balancer.

ILuvPizzaTimes10 08-16-2011 01:31 PM

i say take care of the little stuff and keep it a date correct numbers matched Survivor!!! Thas my 2 cents. and then in 10 years sen her in for a nut and bolt.

DavidS 08-16-2011 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ILuvPizzaTimes10 (Post 53841)
i say take care of the little stuff and keep it a date correct numbers matched Survivor!!! Thas my 2 cents. and then in 10 years sen her in for a nut and bolt.

yep. I'm going to try to take it slow and just collect missing parts for now.....

A lot of the small stuff are normal wear items. He said that GM still makes some of the items I need.

My list of the big stuff: battery and battery cables, carburetor, fuel pump, fuel lines, shifter handle, rocker arms, exhaust system, harmonic balancer, shocks, water pump, wiring harness

Even though all 69 Z's had smog, I am going to leave it with headers but pick up new ones. He said it looks like inexpensive hookers are on there now.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...de-engine2.jpg

DAWG 08-16-2011 05:44 PM

stainless headers would look nice!!!

DavidS 08-16-2011 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DAWG (Post 53846)
stainless headers would look nice!!!

yep. I think you're right and that's what I'll probably go with. It's gotta be a lot easier to install on a small block too.

and 1 funny thing that is the easiest to fix.......... he said the valve covers are switched.

DAWG 08-16-2011 06:37 PM

Saw this and thought i would pass it on to ya
http://nwct.craigslist.org/pts/2502386890.html
I might have the correct harmonic balancer for a 69 302 if i didnt chuck it out years ago.
ill look for ya and if i still have it its yours for free.

My84Z 08-16-2011 07:26 PM

I say just give it to me and i will take care of it for ya!

DavidS 08-16-2011 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DAWG (Post 53850)
I might have the correct harmonic balancer for a 69 302 if i didnt chuck it out years ago.
ill look for ya and if i still have it its yours for free.

If you have one, it would look like this:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2.../balancer1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2.../balancer2.jpg

They are real hard to find though and restored mint condition ones sell for about $400.

DAWG 08-16-2011 10:16 PM

yeah thats the one.
Ill look for it in my loft in the garage.
I hope I still got it for ya.
if memory serves me right that same balancer was used on other engines aswell with same stamp.
I found an original unused in original box here
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/69-72...-/370463469735

ILuvPizzaTimes10 08-17-2011 12:16 AM

for 50 bux id be ALLL over that!!!!

DavidS 08-17-2011 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by DAWG (Post 53861)
I found an original unused in original box here
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/69-72...-/370463469735


Dawg, Thanks for trying, but the EBay one is not an original. The auction has "Not the correct style. Item is new aftermarket".

jeff68 08-17-2011 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by DavidS (Post 53836)
He does restoration work on parts (he does not do body work/car restoration) and I had him take the brake booster, master cylinder and distributor with him.

Just a 'heads-up': Make sure that you know EXACTLY what he will be doing to these components and EXACTLY what you will get back. A lot of people into Camaros think Jerry is "the man". I'm not one of them, and I'm talking from personal experience:
http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=7176.0;all

DavidS 08-17-2011 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by jeff68 (Post 53904)
Just a 'heads-up': Make sure that you know EXACTLY what he will be doing to these components and EXACTLY what you will get back. A lot of people into Camaros think Jerry is "the man". I'm not one of them, and I'm talking from personal experience:
http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=7176.0;all

Wow!!!! That was you! Holy Moly!!!! I had read that entire thread and had even printed it out to go through it thorougly and I had no idea that was your carb. Jeez I should have looked closer at the original poster name. It made me really wonder what was going on at his shop.

The parts that I gave him though were really in pathetic shape. The booster sounded like it had a lot of sand in it from deterioration and everything looked like it just came out of a dumpster.

jeff68 08-17-2011 04:22 PM

^^Yeah, that was me.

For restoring the finish on bits & pieces, check out Steve Gregori's work at www.brakeboosters.com. I just got back some hardware from him and it came out very nice.

DavidS 08-18-2011 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by jeff68 (Post 53912)
^^Yeah, that was me.

For restoring the finish on bits & pieces, check out Steve Gregori's work at www.brakeboosters.com. I just got back some hardware from him and it came out very nice.

Very nice!!! He does beautiful work.

....Alfred just emailed me another 1969 picture of him and the car. This picture is not as faded as the other ones and it's before he put the fog lights on.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...8/ScottAFB.jpg

He also said he is sending me one original picture. This one (with fog lights):
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...z28/Z28-01.jpg

Formula413 08-18-2011 01:52 AM

I wonder what the combined value of every car in that parking lot is right now.

jeff68 08-18-2011 11:46 AM

Looking at vintage pictures like that never gets old. You start to pick up on other things - like the 5-spoke wheel/ Polyglas tire combo on the car next to him. Great stuff.

DavidS 08-18-2011 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Formula413 (Post 53946)
I wonder what the combined value of every car in that parking lot is right now.

Don't know what they're worth, but it looks a bit like a modern day car show. Funny to think that they are all daily drivers.

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Originally Posted by jeff68 (Post 53960)
Looking at vintage pictures like that never gets old. You start to pick up on other things - like the 5-spoke wheel/ Polyglas tire combo on the car next to him. Great stuff.

.....and not a foreign car in sight. Radically different times.

monytorris 08-19-2011 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DavidS (Post 53964)
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.....and not a foreign car in sight. Radically different times.

I had a dream like that once!

DavidS 09-05-2011 06:44 PM

The shed has been working out great so far. Next year I will probably insulate it.

The entrance is 6 inches wider than between the lift, so it's easier than parking under the lift.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...8/outside2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...28/outside.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...z28/inside.jpg

ILuvPizzaTimes10 09-05-2011 06:44 PM

Very Nice!!!!


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