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ILuvPizzaTimes10 02-26-2012 03:58 PM

Love you

ZFreie 02-26-2012 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ILuvPizzaTimes10 (Post 62633)
Love you

:homo: lol


I'm excited to not spin any more....well not as often lol
Interesting thread on ls1 tech a 94 camaro with 2.xx a4 and bolt ons making some nice #s. I need a better tune and some valve train mods and I could almost have 300 hp lol

http://ls1tech.com/forums/lt1-lt4-mo...-lt1-dyno.html

says in full weight I would run idealy a 13.5, I'm like 300 lbs lighter lol I need to make a battery tie down and go to the track when it opens haha

ZFreie 02-26-2012 09:20 PM

Ok just got home, looks killer. Wanted to go with c5 z06 rims but after seeing the zr1s on my car just gonna get another set for the front.

Tried to get the same angle to show width

~Stockers~
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...-28-26_996.jpg

~New 275s~ *It looks crooked but its not, that wasn't torqued down and the other side is in the air a little bit*

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...-52-25_640.jpg


http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...-10-37_209.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...6-10-43_10.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...-10-51_554.jpg

The rims alone make my car not look like a pile of shit lol

Now I need to fix the body line spaces lol

My84Z 02-26-2012 09:23 PM

Looks good definately get the fronts asap

ZFreie 02-26-2012 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by My84Z (Post 62648)
Looks good definately get the fronts asap

If I can find another deal like i got for them it shouldnt take to long haha

Formula413 02-26-2012 09:53 PM

Definitely a 100% improvement

frankzlt1 02-26-2012 10:53 PM

Zr1s can make any piece of shit look good. Joking it does look good you def need to get a set for the fronts.

941LE 02-26-2012 11:40 PM

Do like I said. Find a pair of 17x11s for out back!

ILuvPizzaTimes10 02-26-2012 11:52 PM

Looks WAYYY Better. congrats. too bad it took you too long to post pics. your now officially dead to me. Good Bye,

*LS1* Queen 02-27-2012 12:57 AM

much better

Triaxle 02-27-2012 09:56 PM

Yea looks good, cleans the car up a lot

ZFreie 03-20-2012 09:37 PM

Opinions, if I were to get a hot cam for cheap, would it be worth it to try and find a used set of lt4 springs or just buy new springs. Also, would the 1.5 stamped stock rockers be safe to run with the cam? (just for the time being, I would upgrade to NSA in the near future just don't wanna drop the coin on it all right now lol )

Just pondering ideas in my head, and this seems to be a really cheap and easy way to make some extra power with out changing much

ILuvPizzaTimes10 03-20-2012 10:01 PM

Your are 6 speed or auto I forget? Tuning will also be added to the list. Never buy used springs. And the cam specs aren't listed as a 1.5 cam but speced out for 1.6 rockers. Not saying 1.5s won't work if they were roller. but the stock 1.5 rockers will not work. The rocker will travel past the valve tip and side load the valve causing mayhem! Spend your money once. Do it all or nothing at all.

ZFreie 03-20-2012 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ILuvPizzaTimes10 (Post 64491)
Your are 6 speed or auto I forget? Tuning will also be added to the list. Never buy used springs. And the cam specs aren't listed as a 1.5 cam but speced out for 1.6 rockers. Not saying 1.5s won't work if they were roller. but the stock 1.5 rockers will not work. The rocker will travel past the valve tip and side load the valve causing mayhem! Spend your money once. Do it all or nothing at all.

Auto, and I wasnt saying I was gonna buy used, I was just asking lol

Any thought on these? http://www.alexsparts.com/lt1-valve-...rs-locks-cups/ Just saw them on ls1tech, and havent looked into them at all.

And I didn't figure the stock rockers would work lol

And yep, I know a tune would be needed, Id prob send back to madz28 and tweak if needed.

ILuvPizzaTimes10 03-20-2012 10:41 PM

Do you have a stall yet? If not don't waiste your time with a cam. It will run like shit. Stall first then cam to go with your choice of stall. Ie. Ss3000 3200 or I say the 3600. After seeing and riding in tonys car!

ZFreie 03-20-2012 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ILuvPizzaTimes10 (Post 64494)
Do you have a stall yet? If not don't waiste your time with a cam. It will run like shit. Stall first then cam to go with your choice of stall. Ie. Ss3000 3200 or I say the 3600. After seeing and riding in tonys car!

??? a hot cam will run like shit would out a stall? I find that hard to believe, what did the lt4 vettes do? lol

SLP IROC-Z 03-20-2012 11:07 PM

my friend has a hot cammed c4 vette, stock converter and stock 3.07 gears. it rips pretty hard

ZFreie 03-20-2012 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SLP IROC-Z (Post 64498)
my friend has a hot cammed c4 vette, stock converter and stock 3.07 gears. it rips pretty hard

Any idea what the vette converters were stalled to stock?

SLP IROC-Z 03-20-2012 11:13 PM

no clue, not much lol.

ILuvPizzaTimes10 03-21-2012 01:56 AM

vette converters are 2500 f bucket is 2200. and the lt4 HOT CAM didnt come in the LT4 Vette stock. its just named the LT4 hot cam kit because GM Marketed it with the LT4 head conversion package in the mid 90's. and you will gain more seat of the pants if you do a stall vs. a cam first. the cam will lug down low and be real hard to detune the richness at low rpm loads. like i sed it will run like crap. maybe i should have sed for street use. at the track your 60 foots will suck but it will run good up top. i say save up and do a converter FIRST before any real motor work. you wont believe the difference.

Formula413 03-21-2012 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ILuvPizzaTimes10 (Post 64527)
vette converters are 2500 f bucket is 2200.

I thought an F Body was 1800?

My84Z 03-21-2012 02:29 AM

If you wanna do a came do a cam a lt4 is such a small cam it isn't worth the work. Imho

ZFreie 03-21-2012 02:30 AM

Reguardless, I'm pretty sure a stall is gonna kill my tranny, and I don't have the coin to do stall and build the transmission. lol

I figured the hot cam would be a good really cheap way to make some extra power, till i can save up and get proper heads and cams.

Along with the saving money theme, I also wont have to get new pushrods, guide plates, can still run SA RR safely and I also don't have to worry about my bottom end or spinning it high like I will need to with a bigger cam.

SLP IROC-Z 03-21-2012 02:31 AM

all i know is my friends c4 vette runs great, its a small cam. his car even has stock manifolds and cats, it put down 300rwhp. it doesnt surge or do anything funny. just a little bit of an idle to it. its a monster on the highway

941LE 03-21-2012 03:15 AM

You want a small cam that ran great. Cc304 that I had in my lt1. Runs off stock tune and valve train.

KLAB 03-21-2012 03:25 AM

and you were running what mid 12s with just that cam?? ^

ZFreie 03-21-2012 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by 941LE (Post 64554)
You want a small cam that ran great. Cc304 that I had in my lt1. Runs off stock tune and valve train.

I'm lazy, whats the differences between the hot cam and the 304? lol

ILuvPizzaTimes10 03-21-2012 12:33 PM

took 5 seconds.

http://www.compcams.com/Company/CC/c...csid=1101&sb=2


can be run with low mileage stock springs and 1.5 rr's or get a set of 918's and run it with 1.6's either way Slight idle and runs on stock tune. i still say get a Stall.

holokosta 03-21-2012 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by 941LE (Post 64554)
You want a small cam that ran great. Cc304 that I had in my lt1. Runs off stock tune and valve train.

That'd interesting. So interesting I'm gonna have to consider lol

ZFreie 03-21-2012 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ILuvPizzaTimes10 (Post 64565)
took 5 seconds.

http://www.compcams.com/Company/CC/c...csid=1101&sb=2


can be run with low mileage stock springs and 1.5 rr's or get a set of 918's and run it with 1.6's either way Slight idle and runs on stock tune. i still say get a Stall.

Told you I was lazy lol

And scrap the low mileage springs idea, unless 166k is low lol and I will get a stall!

ILuvPizzaTimes10 03-22-2012 03:04 AM

stall first!!!!!!!

ZFreie 03-22-2012 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by ILuvPizzaTimes10 (Post 64594)
stall first!!!!!!!

If I do stall I'm gonna need tranny and rear end. I don't have 5k to spend on my car currently lol So unless I find a bitchen deal on a used one I'm not getting a stall for a bit.

frankzlt1 03-22-2012 09:45 AM

How do think your going to need a tranny and rear if you get a stall. I got a stock tranny and stock 323 gears in my car and seems to rip pretty good for a bone stock lt1. My stall is a 2800-3000 not sure which it was in the car when i got it and I also have a tune done.

ZFreie 03-22-2012 12:16 PM

Well, 166k on the tranny and was rebuilt by some random shop by previous owner, figuring a stall isnt the best idea till i have the money to rebuild it if it pops. lol

Ill be going with a SS3600, and gears im gonna start with a replacement 10 bolt with 3.42 but if and when i do a 12 bolt it will get 373s

but i figure a cam will break less shit then DRs and a stall lol and again, i cant hook now, a stall would make it even worse untill i get real tires lol i dunno, im torn, i need to scratch a like 5k ticket haha

ILuvPizzaTimes10 03-22-2012 01:45 PM

then start saving. really not building it faster from the back forward you are just going to break shit. and whether you add power up front of traction out back either way if you say your tranny is questionable then dont do anything till you can afford a low milage stocker from a junkyard and a stall to go in it. you are Not making great hp untill you seriously start modding the motor. so i say 3.42 rear, kyard tranny, and a stall to go in it with tune. and you will be just fine for quite some time. and a SHIT load faster then if you had just gotten a cam. Shit 4L60E trannys are going for 500 bux for the 95-97 LT's just gotta look.

ZFreie 03-22-2012 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ILuvPizzaTimes10 (Post 64620)
then start saving. really not building it faster from the back forward you are just going to break shit. and whether you add power up front of traction out back either way if you say your tranny is questionable then dont do anything till you can afford a low milage stocker from a junkyard and a stall to go in it. you are Not making great hp untill you seriously start modding the motor. so i say 3.42 rear, kyard tranny, and a stall to go in it with tune. and you will be just fine for quite some time. and a SHIT load faster then if you had just gotten a cam. Shit 4L60E trannys are going for 500 bux for the 95-97 LT's just gotta look.

Shit load faster off the line sure lol

Ill have to find a LOW miles tranny, and even then it will be a crap shoot as to how good the tranny really is. I'd prefer to take that 500 and put it towards mine getting built, the stall and gears arnt gonna do a shit ton for me once I'm at speed lol

plus I don't wanna change A4s like civics do engines lol

And with that stall and junk yard tranny and rear, I now need tires to use the stall and tranny cooler lol

As stated before, the cam would be far more feasible and would make me enjoy the car that much more. Its not like I'm saying I'm gonna do the cam and quit modding, nor have i even started collecting parts lol

Nor am I looking to stuff a .650 lift cam and expect to gain 100 hp.

Spend a grand on a cam and some other stuff and enjoy the car some more or save up like 6k for everything all in one whack. To bad I'm not an M6 I wouldn't be getting half as much shit lol

Motaboata 03-22-2012 04:46 PM

Just saying my camaro has 197k on it, she was beaten hard her whole life, and the stall was definitely fun, and I don't believe it put anymore damage to anything. I would not do a cam or any of that until u start building the supporting mods to handle it

frankzlt1 03-22-2012 11:21 PM

Hell my car just turned 105xxx mi and I know it was hammered before cus I the proof still inside the wheel wells lolz. I tell ya though a stall will wake the car up a lot more than you think and don't do anymore damage to it than if you didn't because your hammering on it either way lol. Not trying to bust balls, I want to do a can in mine as well that's why i bought a block to start with a build.

ILuvPizzaTimes10 03-23-2012 02:20 AM

Lets See Tonys Car runs a BONE STOCK Motor and ALL Other supporting mods and hes running low 12's i BARELY beat him at the 1000 foot mark. he treed me 60 footed me and Killed me threw the 1/8th and i made 100 more rwhp then him. and was only 200 pounds heavier. a Stall for an Auto is a must before all else. you can think a cam will make the car faster and feel better then a stall will but your dead wrong. you run faster lay down more rubber and have an Absolute BLAST driving the car. Vs. cam only. im gunna say this till im blue in the face! and i will keep saying till you just half ass it get a cam and the car isnt what you expected and for the same money invested you would have had a faster car. Ohh and Ill Say I Told You So!!!

holokosta 03-23-2012 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by ILuvPizzaTimes10 (Post 64738)
Lets See Tonys Car runs a BONE STOCK Motor and ALL Other supporting mods and hes running low 12's i BARELY beat him at the 1000 foot mark. he treed me 60 footed me and Killed me threw the 1/8th and i made 100 more rwhp then him. and was only 200 pounds heavier. a Stall for an Auto is a must before all else. you can think a cam will make the car faster and feel better then a stall will but your dead wrong. you run faster lay down more rubber and have an Absolute BLAST driving the car. Vs. cam only. im gunna say this till im blue in the face! and i will keep saying till you just half ass it get a cam and the car isnt what you expected and for the same money invested you would have had a faster car. Ohh and Ill Say I Told You So!!!

I can totally see you hunched over typing this with that manic face on your head semi smiling but kinda pissed at the same time. Love it.


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