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ZFreie 04-10-2012 02:24 PM

Stock gtr vs zr1?

2012 Zr1- 638bhp
2012 GTR- 530bhp

ZR1-3300
GTR-3900

Dosn't add up mang

Kalstar 04-10-2012 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by My84Z (Post 66262)
http://www.roadandtrack.com/tests/co.../culture-clash


Porsche won but the zr1 beat the gtr and the gtr is almost 100k now

Zturd must have been driving.

ls6monte 04-10-2012 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ZFreie (Post 66276)
Stock gtr vs zr1?

2012 Zr1- 638bhp
2012 GTR- 530bhp

ZR1-3300
GTR-3900

Dosn't add up mang

Yes it does!

It's called AWD w/Launch Control!

Kalstar 04-10-2012 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KLAB (Post 66265)
You got a point there, but in a way that wouldn't be very economical, in the short run at least. They would have to dump millions and millions into new design and engineering for a car to eclipse out their star car. The vette has always been Chevys top performing super car since the 50s, and they are the only auto marker as far as I know to stick with it since the start and keep improving on it. Now I think that is much more impressive than pooping out a new design like everyone else....

And I would also like to think people without 100k see the ZR1 and decide to get a base C6 or a ZR1, not with intentions to outperform the ZR1 but to have a affordable street car LIKE it that isn't exactly as insane but.. You get it.

100k for a bunch of un-necessary shit imo unless you hit the road track every weekend. Then in that case it isn't a car about rarity and gunuinity its just a straight up thrasher car mass produced to provide as many people with insane fun around the world. That's success.

I can agree but only to a degree. The Vette has been the Chevy "king of the Hill" for nearly 60 years. And I agree that unnessasary shit is just that. Most can't drive the base car to it's limits let alone the ZR1.

Where I don't agree is where expense comes into the equation "need to spend millions and millions" were I do agree it would cost multiple millions, cost is a relative term. They spend millions every year on advertisement including millions of dollars on just one super bowl ad. Even if the car costs more to produce than they can sell it for, it would put Chevy in the eyesight of many other consumers that see chevy as a low cost alternative to other brands. The magazines would eat it up.... the blue collar chevy is taking on the best, not only in speed but in appearance and build quality. Let's face it, we all can not afford a 100k car, but much like motorcycles the technology trickles down to the lesser models and becomes less costly to produce as quantities increase. I remember when the CBRF4 was the king, now that motor is used in the base level "sport tourer" A whole new generation of kids will look at this supercar as something to strive toward. It's not hard to buy a 10 year old Vette for 15k. Try that with a ferrari or Lamborghini. We need a car that is always something a kid dreams about and the lucky few can afford. If it comes to easy it will not be held on a pedestal. Don't get me wrong there is a place for a base Vette, but the ZR1 just should not be the same as the rest of the line up. When dealers need to discount brand new left over Zr1 to sell it, there's problems that the management of GM is blind too.

irockidz28 04-10-2012 06:35 PM

this thread is like the energizer bunny...just keeps going and going lol

alex im sorry for adding to the hijacking but i want to put in my two cents...

not everyone is going to love every car ever made..in my mind the zr1 is a sweet car. but would i ever buy one? not unless i won the lottery. lol i could never buy a car and just leave it bone stock and for the money you could build a faster car for less evryone knows this but for someone with more money then car smarts then its perfect or if you have the money to buy one and then mod that. that would be cool to. how many people do that?

but either way i dont think there is anyone here that wouldnt brag about having one in their driveway

KLAB 04-10-2012 06:56 PM

the ZR1 is the best car ever made /thread

done.

Kalstar 04-10-2012 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by KLAB (Post 66320)
the ZR1 is the best car ever made /thread

done.

Ok, I'll agree, back under my rock.

ZFreie 04-10-2012 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILuvPizzaTimes10 (Post 66254)
and i wouldnt really call it one of most extreme high performance cars ever built wen a Shit Box Nissan GTR spanks it for 25k less!

Quote:

Originally Posted by ls6monte (Post 66304)
Yes it does!

It's called AWD w/Launch Control!

So gtr is only better from a dead stop......which is like 1/5 of a cars abilitys


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