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ZFreie 04-22-2013 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ILuvPizzaTimes10 (Post 79649)
who knows why But sucking hot ass air from the top of the radiator makes less sence the sucking it from the wheel well. regardless of intake tubing length. hey if your happy with it SWEET!

Hot air is exiting the fans on the BACK of the radiator, not the front. so it gets cold air all the time as the filter element is BEFORE the radiator in the path of air.

Cold air---->airfilter------> rad------>hot air

I might entertain heat soak from the lid being on top of the rad support and the lid getting hot and thus making the air hot but there is no way its sucking in "hot air".

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Originally Posted by Z28 (Post 79650)
The dip looks good. How many coats you use?

I used 4 or 5 light coats, vs the heavier coats like the can says to use.

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Originally Posted by frankzlt1 (Post 79651)
How are reprogramming your computer to your new gears?

Tuner cats, have aldl cable and just plugged in the gear change into the tunercats auto adjust thing. Klab told me about it, didnt know it existed before lol

Formula413 04-22-2013 12:59 AM

Honestly if it were simple I'd probably swap to an LS1 style intake just for ease of access. Beats jacking up the car and pulling the skid plate just to get at the damn air filter. And you could run a paper filter. But I think the Moroso or a comparable CAI flows plenty for a mildly modded LT1.

Slowhawk 04-22-2013 11:29 PM

I think pizza is saying the hot air during idle and not moving. I've seen inlet temps hit 150+ in traffic on LS cars with the bottom cut out.

ILuvPizzaTimes10 04-23-2013 02:13 AM

yeah thats what i mean. my lid gets very hot sitting in the lanes. had to move the IAT sensor so it wouldnt pull 4 degrees out of timing.

SLP IROC-Z 04-23-2013 02:18 AM

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Zfreie you should buy this off me, chrs1313 ram air kit

ZFreie 06-15-2013 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ILuvPizzaTimes10 (Post 79695)
yeah thats what i mean. my lid gets very hot sitting in the lanes. had to move the IAT sensor so it wouldnt pull 4 degrees out of timing.

Ill have to check mine and see, there is alot of open space tho

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Originally Posted by SLP IROC-Z (Post 79697)
Zfreie you should buy this off me, chrs1313 ram air kit

I would but my lid is far from a normal setup, id prob have to make one for it to fit correctly.

ZFreie 06-15-2013 08:15 PM

Compression Test
 
Well all cylinders were with in 205-210psi

should I repeat the test now and add some oil to cylinders to make sure my compression tester is accurate?

Pictures of plugs

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...ps0fbcf75e.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...ps2280d71d.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...ps5e36dbf7.jpg

Seems like alot of carbon buildup, guessing from the oil it burns. I'm stull having oil blown out of the dipstick ect, if the compression test is right I should have really solid motor for 180k, so how is my engine getting the crankcase pressurized?

ILuvPizzaTimes10 06-15-2013 11:46 PM

when you pulled the intake did you pull the lower pan off and clean the PILE of sludge out of it?

My84Z 06-16-2013 12:29 AM

I'd also lean towards pcv. Try changing the pcv valve and cleaning the sustem

ls6monte 06-16-2013 12:48 AM

https://www.facebook.com/groups/2078...group_activity

Don't know if you're on facebook at all but my friend has a 70k LT1 for sale for decent money. Billy Fowler is his name(if the post doesn't redirect you to the thread.)

ZFreie 06-16-2013 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by ILuvPizzaTimes10 (Post 81229)
when you pulled the intake did you pull the lower pan off and clean the PILE of sludge out of it?

I can't remember to be honest. Ill try that then.

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Originally Posted by My84Z (Post 81230)
I'd also lean towards pcv. Try changing the pcv valve and cleaning the sustem

JUST replaced the pcv valve, guess ill pull the intake again and clean it. What else could be clogged?

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Originally Posted by ls6monte (Post 81233)
https://www.facebook.com/groups/2078...group_activity

Don't know if you're on facebook at all but my friend has a 70k LT1 for sale for decent money. Billy Fowler is his name(if the post doesn't redirect you to the thread.)

If it needs a new engine Id just pull and rebuild this one and suffer driving the f150 till next spring lol but thanks for the link.

My84Z 06-16-2013 02:54 AM

New might mean defective unless it was doing it before? Did you check the hoses from it if they aren't blocked?

ZFreie 06-16-2013 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by My84Z (Post 81236)
New might mean defective unless it was doing it before? Did you check the hoses from it if they aren't blocked?

Its been doing this for 6 months now? Replaced the valve a month ago with no change. All hoses are clear.

Would tossing some compressed air into the pcv inlet dislodge anygunk long enough to see if thats the issue? Would it hurt anything?

ZFreie 06-16-2013 06:20 PM

Ok so, pcv valve sucks like a mofo, pulled it out of intake and put my finger up to it and it about sucked it into the engine. So its def working.

Anything else I can check easy that I might be over looking?

I noticed some fluctuating oil pressure WOT last time I drove it, didn't move much but a little, Ill toss some seafoam in the oil before next oil change and let it run for a few min before I dump it and see if that helps either situation.

I guess next step will be pulling the intake? I'm at a loss really lol

For shits I put a piece of tube to the pcv grommet and blew into it and I can hear air reaching the TB, dunno if this matters or not.

My84Z 06-16-2013 07:42 PM

Maybe try a cheap vent on the oil cap? I don't run a pcv so what do I know lol

frankzlt1 06-16-2013 10:36 PM

Zfreie what exactly is the problem with your engine.

SLP IROC-Z 06-16-2013 10:38 PM

if the rubber lines are old and deteriorated they could be collapsing under vaccum causing no ventilation

ZFreie 06-17-2013 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by frankzlt1 (Post 81253)
Zfreie what exactly is the problem with your engine.

poping the dipstick off randomly... Ive had to zip tie it down lol

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Originally Posted by SLP IROC-Z (Post 81254)
if the rubber lines are old and deteriorated they could be collapsing under vaccum causing no ventilation

Ill replace anything I can lol

Just driving me nuts smelling oil all the time and everything else.

KLAB 06-17-2013 03:04 AM

hey man at least it starts :P

ILuvPizzaTimes10 06-18-2013 01:21 AM

So when you pulled the pcv out and ran the car. did the gromet the pcv goes into blow air out while it was running? if NOT then the belly pan is full of shit.

ZFreie 06-18-2013 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by ILuvPizzaTimes10 (Post 81284)
So when you pulled the pcv out and ran the car. did the gromet the pcv goes into blow air out while it was running? if NOT then the belly pan is full of shit.

I will have to check again lol

ZFreie 06-23-2013 06:17 PM

Just an update, the problem seems to be gone? lol

I wonder if me pressurizing the manifold freed up something? So far no oil to be seen out of the engine.

Works for me :zfreie:

KLAB 06-24-2013 01:03 PM

winnn :klab:

ZFreie 08-18-2013 02:46 AM

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...ps0ea47697.jpg

Need to do another couple coats on the hood and will be good to go.

frankzlt1 08-18-2013 01:55 PM

Looks good. How derible is it?

ZFreie 08-18-2013 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by frankzlt1 (Post 82447)
Looks good. How derible is it?

Um, depends, its not super tough but I don't use its as directed, if you used a few heavy coats I'd wager it would be strong.



http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...psf2d79eb8.jpg

ZFreie 07-22-2014 04:38 PM

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Shot from ground looking up into my air dam. Showing how exposed both rad and air filter are.

Got a couple more things to finish up but, car is about done till garage gets finished and I go racecar with it.

ILuvPizzaTimes10 07-22-2014 11:19 PM

if you take out that seemingly useless plastic "shield" over the radiator it actually causes the car to run hot unless you take and hole saw the front bumper reinforcement and remove some of the bumper cover to add flow. that shield is there to bring air front under the car at speed up in front of the rad in a controlled manner. with out it the air doent flow threw the rad and at speed. 35plus the fans are off by ecm till its overheating. just so you know.

ZFreie 07-23-2014 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by ILuvPizzaTimes10 (Post 87426)
if you take out that seemingly useless plastic "shield" over the radiator it actually causes the car to run hot unless you take and hole saw the front bumper reinforcement and remove some of the bumper cover to add flow. that shield is there to bring air front under the car at speed up in front of the rad in a controlled manner. with out it the air doent flow threw the rad and at speed. 35plus the fans are off by ecm till its overheating. just so you know.

the only shield I can think of is the like x plastic piece that sits across from the radiator. unless your talking the air dam and yea it still attached cause I know what it's there for lol just can't see it in the picture, I'm like inside the bumper taking the picture lol

This has been my setup for two years now, runs cold lol 160* tstat and tuned for earlier fans

ILuvPizzaTimes10 07-23-2014 03:22 AM

yeah i was talking the x plastic piece if i take it out mine over heats while beating on it down the high way. still have air damn too.

ZFreie 07-23-2014 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by ILuvPizzaTimes10 (Post 87432)
yeah i was talking the x plastic piece if i take it out mine over heats while beating on it down the high way. still have air damn too.

huh, I'll have to try a test, ill try putting it back in and see if it makes a difference either way.

I don't drive highway hardly ever so perhaps that's why I've never noticed? Would you notice from a single wot pull?

ILuvPizzaTimes10 07-24-2014 01:29 AM

no it was after a few miles of hard pulls then letting off. maybe your ok i increased the BTU's of my engine probably 60% over stock and have stock radiator..... haha

ZFreie 09-10-2014 09:02 PM

Update on garage, getting close to being able to lay the radiant heat in the floor and have it poured.

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...psbecd6589.jpg

Formula413 09-10-2014 09:44 PM

Very nice!

ILuvPizzaTimes10 09-11-2014 12:07 AM

still not big enough!! 2 more bays!!!!! do it!!!!!

ZFreie 09-11-2014 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by ILuvPizzaTimes10 (Post 87929)
still not big enough!! 2 more bays!!!!! do it!!!!!

We wish, this is as big as we can fit lol

KLAB 09-11-2014 12:49 PM

wow nice dude, you gonna move in upstairs? lol

ZFreie 09-11-2014 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by KLAB (Post 87933)
wow nice dude, you gonna move in upstairs? lol

When I buy some land that is exactly what I plan on doing lol Just some storage space upstairs in this one.

KLAB 09-11-2014 04:21 PM

Yeah me too, I've thought about making my own place above my grandfathers two stall garage up in NH, lift one side of the roof and dormer the other. But too bad I'm in a career that ties me to the Boston area.. But it would make a sweet little camp to go up on the weekends instead of blowing an air mattress up.


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