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smokinss 05-14-2010 09:56 AM

2011 5.slow
 
Well here we go already folks. Enjoy. I dont know what the camaro had for mods but here is the video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2fo3KHupBM

Navy01z 05-14-2010 11:50 AM

I cant tell. Who won?

Batman 05-14-2010 01:02 PM

The Camaro

ILuvPizzaTimes10 05-14-2010 02:45 PM

ahhaaha wow. that SS had to have had some work done!

DemonWithin99 05-14-2010 03:54 PM

good ol' reliable wins again!!! 8-12yrs old and still puts up a fight with Ford, can they ever get that car right?

irockidz28 05-14-2010 06:22 PM

niceee!

*LS1* Queen 05-14-2010 07:20 PM

hahaha thats awesome...looks like the guys owns both the 5.0 and the SS is on ls1tech and his mods to the ss are just a lid. gotta love LS1s hahahaha

smokinss 05-14-2010 08:13 PM

awsome. Only a lid makes it even better. I figured it might have been cammed. Hey even a cammed bolt on ls1 is cheeper than a 36k 5.0. I am assuming though that the stang had the track pack option, but maybe not.

*LS1* Queen 05-14-2010 08:24 PM

haha some mustang kid is arguing with me on facebook now that the car had no miles on it and he couldnt shift!? hahaha ricer excuse...but yet ur buddy can drive ur SS better??? *cough* bs *cough* damn mustang fan bois

ILuvPizzaTimes10 05-14-2010 09:02 PM

it will go ON forever!! BUT guess what WE HAVE OUR PONY CAR RACES BACK!!!!!!!!! i love the bickering back and forth and the excitement of whats going to come out next!!

*LS1* Queen 05-14-2010 09:11 PM

its like the late 60s-early 70s all over again...i love it! lol

ILuvPizzaTimes10 05-14-2010 09:47 PM

^^ WHAT SHE SED ^^^ only with naked women everywere!!!

smokinss 05-14-2010 10:37 PM

Hahahaha.

Glad I posted this vid.

Its funny I go to the local hangout on friday and saturday nights and B.S. with the other f-body guys. There are a few stangs that are always there and none of them will ever run any of our cars. But yet they will leave the lot like Tom Cruise in Days Of Thunder. One kid tried telling us his notch ran 12.7 @ 116? We were like WTF kinda MPH is that? Everyone there just laughed at him when he pulled away and looked all slow and shit.

sciff5 05-15-2010 03:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by *LS1* Queen (Post 19608)
haha some mustang kid is arguing with me on facebook now that the car had no miles on it and he couldnt shift!? hahaha ricer excuse...but yet ur buddy can drive ur SS better??? *cough* bs *cough* damn mustang fan bois

Honestly we're the fools if we actually think a stock Fbody is faster than a new mustang. In the first run the mustang even takes the hit and the camaro chases him down easily.

Something is wrong in that vid. Either the camaro is modded more than they say, or the mustang driver cant drive.

Batman 05-15-2010 03:52 AM

I dunno, the new GT is supposed to run low 13's high 12's, right around an 01-02 F-body time

Plus do I even have to go into the GT500?

sciff5 05-15-2010 04:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Batman (Post 19641)
I dunno, the new GT is supposed to run low 13's high 12's, right around an 01-02 F-body time

Plus do I even have to go into the GT500?

Yeah but the car is also trapping a good 5-6mph on avg faster than a common stock f body.


Fbody owners are comparing the best times recorded (with good 60's) ever with a stock ls1 compared to avg magazine times done on stock tires on zero mile engines. You dont catch and then pass a car that has enough power to post up 5mph better trap speeds.

To give you reference 5-6 mph is the difference between a stock ls1 and a stock honda s2000. If you replaced the camaro in this video with an S2000 and the ford with a camaro.. I think you'de feel much different and you'd prob be laughing at the honda guys who think their car is faster than a camaro.

Of course this is an Fbody site and its not unbelievable but lets be realistic here guys. I think if anything the fbody has some mods. Lid/exhaust/tune maybe gears would be all it needs to make the difference

*LS1* Queen 05-15-2010 04:24 AM

realistic of what dude? ur comparing a "magazine" stock mph if ur saying its a specific 5mph difference. was that a race at the track? no. its not unrealistic at all. ls1s stock ran high 12s to 13s and thats not taken from a magazine and its not new news. I dont go by magazine times or comparisons. Proof is in the pudding the car lost to the camaro and im not that surprised. No one said the mustang was slow. but for u to say that the camaro couldnt/wouldnt beat it is the unrealistic statement. oh and mph means shit if u cant drive.

smokinss 05-15-2010 04:29 AM

Here is the statement from ls1tech

I posted this at the end of the other thread, but figured it would be good to post by itself to clear some things up.

I was in the SS. The guy driving the 5.0 owns both cars (he's had the 'Stang on order for months).

Here is the run-down:
The SS is a 2001 with 90k miles or thereabouts. The engine in it was mine and is out of a 2002 SS and has about 30k miles on it. The engine is stock other than a whisper lid on it. It has stock manifolds, stock cats, stock exhaust. It put down 334rwhp when it was in my car with 15k miles on it through the center exit SLP exhaust. Matt's car doesn't have that exhaust, but I doubt that effects the power output. I ran a 12.89 in my car with the motor and the stock F1s.

The 5.0 had 8.6 miles on it when we left the dealership. We literally filled up and then ran. The car isn't broken in - AT ALL. Give her some time to loosen up and she'll pick up some speed. The traction control wasn't fully turned off in the 5.0 on the runs either. We didn't know you have to be stopped, brake on, hold the button down for 10 seconds, spin and top and spit out the window to fully disable it. That will make a difference as the 5.0 was cutting out on shifts.

He can post in here what he feels on driving, but I can say that he most certainly knows how to drive and he was running full out. With the traction control completely off the result will be different. Once it has some miles on the clock the result will be different. How different, who knows?

I'm still proud of my old engine - she's a good one!

*LS1* Queen 05-15-2010 04:42 AM

ok so the motor wasnt broken in ...traction control thing i dont know enough about the mustang to argue it but ill give him the benefit of the doubt...pretty decent time on the ss tho. even broken in i still think it would be a good race.

sciff5 05-15-2010 04:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by *LS1* Queen (Post 19647)
ok so the motor wasnt broken in ...traction control thing i dont know enough about the mustang to argue it but ill give him the benefit of the doubt...pretty decent time on the ss tho. even broken in i still think it would be a good race.

Traction control on seals this whole vid as crap.. honestly.. I know he was prob dying to race the thing but learn how to turn the traction control off before getting it on video getting beat.

Btw I said 5-6mph on avg. I am using about 105mph as an avg for a stock Fbody, and the mags have been putting the new 5.0s about 110-111. Now we find out the car has a lid and the mustang driver is an idiot.. not surprising

DemonWithin99 05-15-2010 07:31 AM

I saw something about the shitstangs new TCC button, you need to hold it down for 5-7sec for it to disengage. lol not like our easy button....

Batman 05-15-2010 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sciff5 (Post 19642)
Yeah but the car is also trapping a good 5-6mph on avg faster than a common stock f body.


Fbody owners are comparing the best times recorded (with good 60's) ever with a stock ls1 compared to avg magazine times done on stock tires on zero mile engines. You dont catch and then pass a car that has enough power to post up 5mph better trap speeds.

To give you reference 5-6 mph is the difference between a stock ls1 and a stock honda s2000. If you replaced the camaro in this video with an S2000 and the ford with a camaro.. I think you'de feel much different and you'd prob be laughing at the honda guys who think their car is faster than a camaro.

Of course this is an Fbody site and its not unbelievable but lets be realistic here guys. I think if anything the fbody has some mods. Lid/exhaust/tune maybe gears would be all it needs to make the difference


Again GT 500, 12.8 @ 120+

c4boom 05-15-2010 02:22 PM

OK the way i LOOk at it I trap 12.7's at 109-112 my car is 3860 lbs there is no way my car is puting out 425 HP at the crank with just exhaust and a lid. so where dose that leave the mustang. I want to see one hit the rollers.

smokinss 05-15-2010 02:54 PM

Here is another vid of one done by Evolution performance. Its the first one into the 11s. From what I gather it has a off road x and a catback, tune, and some other goodies. Plus not too mention it has really light weight bogarts

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ILuvPizzaTimes10 05-15-2010 04:28 PM

hate to tell yah but that cars cammed too. just saying. listen to it stablilize on the dyno. its got a NOTICABLE stumble at low rpm's. Still not a bad car. cam only bolt on Fbuckets have been running high 11's sence 1998........

smokinss 05-15-2010 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILuvPizzaTimes10 (Post 19675)
hate to tell yah but that cars cammed too. just saying. listen to it stablilize on the dyno. its got a NOTICABLE stumble at low rpm's. Still not a bad car. cam only bolt on Fbuckets have been running high 11's sence 1998........


Not too sure about that one though. I got this vid from another lsx site and it didnt say anything about it being cammed. All though it would make much more sense.

Batman 05-15-2010 07:07 PM

There are too many factors to consider, weight, gearing, tires, suspension etc. HP means jack shit at the race track, it depends on where the HP comes in, where it peaks and how the car is set up. The biggest problem I see with the 5.0 is it is still an OHC engine and down low it is gonna get beat up by a pushrod engine. I am sure ti will have the same achilles heel the 4.6 and the 5.4 do, you need to turn more RPM to get em going.

84ta406 05-15-2010 07:16 PM

I wonder how much aerodynamics come into play as well?

That EP car was all over yellow bullet and it is not cammed. They've been playing with the TI- VCT a lot!

c4boom 05-16-2010 12:47 AM

ya same thing you advance or retard the cam same results. but think about this he was chirping 4th on street tires and 3rd with the M&H's no way thats the stock clutch

TBerry95z28 05-16-2010 04:16 AM

either way GAY! its a ford haha

Batman 05-16-2010 04:39 AM

I'm sure there is more to it then meets the eye, but you never know.

MasterSe7en 05-17-2010 01:56 AM

what so special about it? its a 2011 Peice of Shit, every year ford makes another peice of shit that cant beat us that all the new drivers and teenagers buy, u know why people always buy it? because its CHEAP and they advertise it more than viagra

MasterSe7en 05-17-2010 02:19 AM

i still dont understand why a 5.0liter modern V8 is unbeleivable losing to a 5.7 Still somewhat modern V8, lets say if this thing was all broken in, how bad is it suppose to beat us by? sounds like shit to me. For the record, i love mustangs, i think they're sharp looking fun cars, but what i hate is what people make them out to be, we got everyone and their grandmother driving one, (Literally) and everyone who has one thinks its so fast, ya its fast, but its not gonna beat every car on the planet, and we know our cars are fast too, but i dont go running my mouth about how my car is so fast, plus i cant take credit for it right now even if it was, i didnt design the motor, i didnt build anything, its a fucking stock Mustang, even if it did win, what kinda credit could the guy have taken? OH I WENT AND BOUGHT A CAR AND IT BEAT URS!!!! AWESOME, mustang/camaro rivalry is a joke, there are people actually getting killed over shit like this


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