crank but no start
 

Drove the car from my gas place today into work. Stopped at a Sunoco to grab a drink and came back out to start. It fired but didn't stay running. Tried cranking it again but thats all it does. It seems like its not firing at all or theres no fuel there. I took a plug out after i got it home after trying to start it and its dry. Called Don and he told me to check the Ign and Fuel relays. I swapped them out with the Fan relays since they are the same but that didn't work either. Cant check the shrader valve on the fuel rail since they are Fast rails and not stock ones. Fuel press gauge in the car reads 42lbs but that hasnt moved ever since buying the car so i don't even know if that works. There doesn't seem to be a hot-wire kit. Has a racetronix 255 fuel pump in the car but since theres a tree mulching company outside i cant her if the fuel pump kicks on to prime. I also tried unplugging the maf to see if that was causing it. Checked all the fuses and they are all good. Well now im kinda stumped on what it could be. I think its a fuel problem but im not sure. Anyone have ideas? Bueler?

Is there spark at the plugs? And thats WICKED shitty the fast fuel rails don't have a shrader valve, where does the gage for fuel pressure inside the car run to? could you hook it up there somehow?


:edit: wait till the the people next door quit making noise to see if the pump primes lol

I'm the only one home so I can't crank and see if there's spark. These guys are going to town on those trees so it might be awhile. I looked along the rail and only saw the feed line to the rail from the tank. No idea where the sender is for the gauge. Ill go out later since I really dont wanna look at the car right now lol.

Check fuses

Already did. None of them are blown. I'm thinking fuel pump but gotta wait til these assholes across the street stop making noise.

Oh come on, cant hold the plug to block and turn the car over :P lol

Hey people gotta work...I used to do that stuff, want them to shut up for 10 min bring some cold water over. lol

Lol they're only asshole cause I went to HS with most of em. Hated those guys then and still do now lol

OHHHHHH well then yep, they prob suck ass. Some people grow up after high school, most don't, its kinda sad.

ok well they shut down for lunch. I do not hear the fuel pump at all. I think thats a problem lol

Lol, seems like a good hunch, id double and triple check the fueses and relays just to be sure, cause pulling the pump isn't exactly an "easy" job, unless you trap door it lol

whelp its defintaly the fuel pump. Hopefully if all goes it'll be towed to Dons by tomorrow to get the new one installed.

Or pay don to do it lol

Thats shitty guy, seems like if its not one thing, its another huh? damn cars, friggin money pits!!!......rant lol :reaction:

That blows, but at least it wasn't an on again/off again gremlin kind of thing

I hate them

Good luck Mike!

What leads you to believe it is a bad pump? Check the fuel pump lead positive wire make sure it didn't come loose and hit the headers when you did the install. The fuel press gauge does work but with the big pump and oversized injectors if you see it dropping you have a problem. The fuel pump isn't very old and it is a racetronix pump so I doubt that is the issue unless it is a wire. Also when you put the headers in and had the starter out you may have pulled a wire out of the crank sensor. It happens alot. Only way to get it to throw a light is to crank the engine for 30-45 seconds and see if it throws a code or pull the starter and check the wires/plug

a racetronix pump and no hotwire kit=fail.

Umm yeah it has the hotwire kit

it does? mike sed it doesnt? im willing to bet its something to do with that. MIKE check That!!!! were did you hang the secondary relay?

I didn't install the pump, btu I paid quite a bit for the kit and the installation so it sure as hell better be there. It should be above the tank

ill find out when the trap door gets put in

did you check the wire by the headers?

wire is for...the FP gauge? Did that gauge needle ever move for you nick?

Only if I bled pressure out of the system and it dropped 2 PSI ont he dyno, apart from that not really, and I'm talking the 12 volt giant red wire from the battery to the fuel pump, goes around the back of the engine then down the firewall and to the back, if that got cut loose at all during the header install it may have fallen onto the header and melted

good luck mike..hope its just something stupid

Call me if u need. Hand... im around

I will say, whoever did the wiring on that car should be shot. You DO NOT hook a bunch of wires directly off the battery.

Fixed some wiring and the car runs fine now.

Like they wernt hooked up to a distribution block, just like..directly to the + terminal??

Wiring is one thing I actually didn't do, but I paid quite a bit for the fuel pump install so I will be having a chat with the shop that did it, thanks for the heads up and for Mike, sorry about that, guess the shop wasn't as good as their rep/ So you are saying the hotwire kit wasn't even there?

So conclusion of story, was the hotwire kit even there?

Holy Resurrection batman.... no pun intended.

I haven't used my shovel ina while...