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midnight 07-13-2011 09:48 PM

finding out the hard way.....
 
that you have an under drive pulley.


So basically ive been wanting to have my ac work...so i originally thought it needed to be recharged...as i was recharging it i looked down and noticed i had no belt. No for someone seasoned with these cars they probably would have realized there was a reason for this...however im not so i pressed on.

Went to pepboys and picked up an AC belt..get home, take the drive belt off, put the one on and its wayyyy to fucking big...called pep boys and reconfirm with my buddy, apparently they put the wrong belt in the wrong box...i swing back out and pick up the RIGHT OEM one..only to get under the car and find out THATS too big...i take a picture and send it off my buddy...who replies "that pulley looks brand fucking new" Thats when it hit me...a close up reveals Auto Specialties Performance stamped on the pulley....


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...7/IMAG0111.jpg

now to find a belt.

ls6monte 07-13-2011 10:34 PM

Take some rope/string and measure the length of it around the pulleys. That should get you in the ballpark. Get a few belts around the size you want. When you get the right belt keep the number in your glovebox! lol

midnight 07-13-2011 11:35 PM

just did a quick search on ls1tech and found it, buddy has it in stock and hes delivering it to me saturday. should be all set. Thanks for the info though.

My84Z 07-13-2011 11:50 PM

Hahha ass!

ILuvPizzaTimes10 07-14-2011 01:03 AM

hahaha Nice!!! too bad we argued for a week for you and you ALREADY HAD ONE! YOU FUCK!!!!!

midnight 07-14-2011 01:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILuvPizzaTimes10 (Post 51710)
hahaha Nice!!! too bad we argued for a week for you and you ALREADY HAD ONE! YOU FUCK!!!!!

lol i was never against it!

Funny that we lost batman over something irrelevant

ILuvPizzaTimes10 07-14-2011 01:08 AM

thats not why. it was his final straw. he doesnt like to bicker back and forth. just likes to say his opinion. and everyone just go..... Ok.

My84Z 07-14-2011 01:11 AM

fuck him he is an ass in a worst way then you haha!

ILuvPizzaTimes10 07-14-2011 01:11 AM

i dunno if being a worse asshole then me is possible.

midnight 07-14-2011 01:20 AM

hey whatever. fuck it..back to me....short of heads and FI i dont see much of an upgrade route now for me, id like it a touch quicker down low guess i need to throw a maggie on it lol

My84Z 07-14-2011 02:19 AM

Yeah first suspension and safety! Then whatever u want for power but gears rear ds loop bellhousing just to name a few.

midnight 07-14-2011 03:05 AM

oh i forgot gears...needs a retune for them right? that will give me an excuse to get the problem im having fixed, maybe free up some ponies in the process

anyone have 4.10s with a 6 speed? hows the highway driveability?

after that ill probably make suspension and safety my priority, Im thinking springs and struts first.

anyone wana make a few bucks on a gear install ;)

ILuvPizzaTimes10 07-14-2011 04:17 AM

Heads!!!

midnight 07-14-2011 12:39 PM

heads are so damn expensive.....unless i go the truck head route..but dont they raise compression? isnt that not a good idea with FI in mind down the road?

jayws6 07-14-2011 12:40 PM

4:10 70mph @ 1800 rpm nice 22 MPG. If i Baby it :haha:

ILuvPizzaTimes10 07-14-2011 03:41 PM

Adam gets like 27mpg with 430's 6th gear ftmfw!

midnight 07-14-2011 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayws6 (Post 51747)
4:10 70mph @ 1800 rpm nice 22 MPG. If i Baby it :haha:

lol that SUCKS, right now i can do about 80mph @ 1800 rpms which is my prefered cruise speed..havnt checked what type of gas mileage i get though...ill find out on this trip to pittsburgh the end of this month

smokinss 07-16-2011 01:05 AM

Yeah a 4.10 is a good gear with a six speed.

midnight 07-16-2011 04:08 AM

but heres the real question, worth doing in the 10 bolt or just save up for a 9" and budget for 4.10s then

ZFreie 07-16-2011 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by midnight (Post 51838)
but heres the real question, worth doing in the 10 bolt or just save up for a 9" and budget for 4.10s then

I feel like thats a catch 22, Just don't break the 10 bolt and it wont be a waste LOL

smokinss 07-17-2011 09:19 AM

Well I will tell you one thing. The first time to the track or first time you hammer it, its going to make noise.

midnight 07-17-2011 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smokinss (Post 51891)
Well I will tell you one thing. The first time to the track or first time you hammer it, its going to make noise.

explain?

ZFreie 07-17-2011 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by midnight (Post 51911)
explain?

10 bolts suck and your car makes to much awesome for the 10 bolt to handle and then you just end up spilling your awesome all over the track.

ILuvPizzaTimes10 07-17-2011 10:13 PM

i had GM 4.10's in the trans am for years. i guess its all in how you drive it. saving up and throwing a 9" in the car isnt Just buying it and installing it. aftermarket/adjustable torque arm is required to get the pinion angle correct. adjustable lower control arms and pan hard bar are needed to get the rear end back into stock/forward position. ans also a drive shaft a conversion ujoint Will break and then say good bye floor. just throwing it in there with stock suspension shit will be a waiste. i dont know what you have But start with the rear and work your way up. throw some 4.10's in it. as long as they're set up right you should be pretty safe as long as your not an animal with it. then start buying suspension stuff/supporting mods to go with the 9" install. i bought shit piece by piece as i could afford it. That what i recommend. If your looking for a faster feel to the car and a quicker time that will net you some ET and seat of the pants feel for sure.

midnight 07-18-2011 05:12 AM

I had planned on doing suspension mods next...mainly struts and springs to start, but with gears i can take all the power i have now and just roast the rear tires so thats OBVIOUSLY the logical choice lol

so define drive like an animal?

ILuvPizzaTimes10 07-18-2011 01:42 PM

rev limiter and dump it. side step the clutch everywere. just drive harsh All the time. i mean i wasnt easy on my rear end and i broke a couple spider gearv teeth at the end of its life But it was still in one piece after a good 3 years of abuse.

ZFreie 07-18-2011 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILuvPizzaTimes10 (Post 51974)
rev limiter and dump it. side step the clutch everywere. just drive harsh All the time. i mean i wasnt easy on my rear end and i broke a couple spider gearv teeth at the end of its life But it was still in one piece after a good 3 years of abuse.

The only difference I can see is Pizza has an lt1 and Midnights got an ls1. I dunno whats exactly done to your car pizza but id have to put my power guess in midnights corner lol. I havnt heard you have a cam but i might be wrong lol.

My84Z 07-18-2011 02:13 PM

I broke my 10 bolt stock. I wouldn't spend a penny on a 10 bolt. Imho. It seems the lt1 rears were alittle stronger I dunno why

ZFreie 07-18-2011 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by My84Z (Post 51977)
I broke my 10 bolt stock. I wouldn't spend a penny on a 10 bolt. Imho. It seems the lt1 rears were alittle stronger I dunno why

Weaker engine powering the diff thus making it seem stronger?

My84Z 07-18-2011 02:25 PM

I dunno my lt1 had some go

ZFreie 07-18-2011 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by My84Z (Post 51979)
I dunno my lt1 had some go

No doubt, I was just throwing ideas out there. What was done to yours?

941LE 07-18-2011 07:42 PM

my lt1 went pretty good. Coulda got some better times but was babying it off the launch so i wouldnt grenade the 10 bolt. But never had a issue with the 10 bolt at all.

ILuvPizzaTimes10 07-18-2011 07:42 PM

I have a 396 ci lt1 that puts down 385 hp and 396 tq at the tires. I raced on it with motive gear 4.10's and nittos. Babbied it and it held up. What I'm saying is he's not going to track the car every weekend. So for a street car for now spend the few hundred and get gears as well as the other shit needed to put in the 9". And have fun with it. Everyone has different opinions and different track records with 10 bolts. Some guys run them at the track 6 speed and into the 10's no problems other bolw em up doing a burn out down the road.

ILuvPizzaTimes10 07-18-2011 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 941LE (Post 51988)
my lt1 went pretty good. Coulda got some better times but was babying it off the launch so i wouldnt grenade the 10 bolt. But never had a issue with the 10 bolt at all.

Guess who put the gears in that car too???? Again its all in the setup. I think I spent 3 hours setting up johns rear end. So far so good??

midnight 07-18-2011 11:57 PM

so pizza your saying you want to put gears in my car for ...some...PIZZA!?!?!?

ILuvPizzaTimes10 07-19-2011 01:58 PM

Get me a lift and ill do em.

midnight 07-19-2011 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILuvPizzaTimes10 (Post 52066)
Get me a lift and ill do em.

thought you had access to one? I hear Joe has one lol :Dance2:

ILuvPizzaTimes10 07-21-2011 01:18 AM

thats completely up to him and it is his father lift for there buisness using his tools/air power. wont be free. i used to have to work for the Day to get to use the lift at axp for the night.

midnight 07-21-2011 04:25 AM

ya i was just being a shithead, im sure i can find one.

My84Z 07-21-2011 04:26 AM

You couldn't find a hole in a whore house!


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