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KLAB 07-24-2013 04:13 PM

Klab LT1 vs Santas STi
 
Me and my buddy did a few runs on the way back to the US from mexico city on an abandoned highway. The cars:

My 1995 Z28 A4 stock motor/trans
CAI, LT's, and ORY, magnaflow catback
cat egr and smog delete, 3.42 rear gears
KlabZ/SLPJoe tuned
stock converter

Santas 2011 STi
CAI, 3" downpipe, custom 3" turbo back
Cobb tuned, 17.5 psi boost

Run 1: 40mph I pulled on him off the hit and then he missed 3rd
Run 2: 30mph I spun slightly he pulled then i pulled back in front of him about 1 car and let off due to a crossing armadillo
Run 3: he told me later he chose 40mph, 2nd gear 5500 rpm to "get me" boom pulled him right away and just kept pulling. I put a little more than 2 cars I'd say on him to the top of 3rd, maybe 3 I didnt look but he way back there haha

Here is my girlfriends poor iPhone vid of the 3rd run:
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B5q-...it?usp=sharing

I was pretty surprised. A couple days earlier Joe helped me with tuning my shift points. I haven't messed with the Air/Fuel tables yet the LC1 is in but seems to need calibration. Once that is dialed in it should be pretty mint, I would like to hit 12's before I install the converter. We will see.

:klab:

Z28 07-24-2013 04:16 PM

STi Killer yo

KLAB 07-24-2013 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Z28 (Post 81913)
STi Killer yo

Haha maybe in a straight line, I've driven his car and that thing is a corner monster.

ZFreie 07-24-2013 05:15 PM

Now race mikes sti, heads up after the converter!

Any sti or wrx is gonna be better around a corner lol

KLAB 07-25-2013 02:50 AM

Haha idk what's done to Mike's. Santa plans to have it dyno tuned and turn up the boost. After my converter is in and he does that I think it would be more close of a race. I was pretty stoked I beat a 2011 sti tho. I know they're fast. Now I need to kill some cars he has beaten in my area like an srt4 and an evo9 bolt on only.

LSX-Nation 07-29-2013 09:42 PM

Sti is a pretty quick car. Nice

941LE 07-30-2013 01:41 AM

wanna race?

My mods are FX300 clutch, launch control and no lift shift programmed into the ecu, 3" catless turbo back, electronic boost controller, FMIC, RFL BOV, Perrin short ram intake and tuned to 22.5psi. I think there might be a different outcome vs a sti that was under stock boost which is 14.5psi

Z28 07-30-2013 02:07 AM

Don't do it, it's a trap...

ZFreie 07-30-2013 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 941LE (Post 82025)
wanna race?

My mods are FX300 clutch, launch control and no lift shift programmed into the ecu, 3" catless turbo back, electronic boost controller, FMIC, RFL BOV, Perrin short ram intake and tuned to 22.5psi. I think there might be a different outcome vs a sti that was under stock boost which is 14.5psi

Wonder how klab would fair with the stall against you in the 1/4?

941LE 07-30-2013 01:46 PM

Ask Benhoe how it runs. We did a few pulls on 495 when we were heading to dyno day. It was before I had my fmic and he makes more power than klab does.

ZFreie 07-30-2013 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 941LE (Post 82032)
Ask Benhoe how it runs. We did a few pulls on 495 when we were heading to dyno day. It was before I had my fmic and he makes more power than klab does.

rolls or digs?

And why can't you just answer lol

SLP IROC-Z 07-30-2013 04:10 PM

Nice! Your car is fun to drive, we should hit the track tomorrow. I love Natasha's laugh, lol

941LE 07-30-2013 05:22 PM

Rolls. From a dig ill eat him. They were from around 50 in 3rd and he started pulling away at the top of 4th shifting into 5th. By no means if mine a highway top end monster. Get you out of the hole and its up to your car to catch me. Last Dynod it was at 290/325 at the wheels. Still need to go back to see what the fmic picked up.

ZFreie 07-30-2013 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 941LE (Post 82050)
Rolls. From a dig ill eat him. They were from around 50 in 3rd and he started pulling away at the top of 4th shifting into 5th. By no means if mine a highway top end monster. Get you out of the hole and its up to your car to catch me. Last Dynod it was at 290/325 at the wheels. Still need to go back to see what the fmic picked up.

Still solid numbers, figured it put out more, that was on the 22psi right?

and id say you have the advantage vs a stock stall car on a roll lol You don't think klab with a stall and tire would be able to launch with you?

KLAB 07-30-2013 05:51 PM

I was talking to Santa while we were camping this weekend and he said it is 17.5 psi on sport sharp mode with the cobb tune. My mistake.

Yeah I'll race you Mike if you wanna come up this way street or track. My best 60' was a 1.981 when I did 13.202 @ 104.69 last September. What does your STi 60'?

941LE 07-30-2013 07:45 PM

Haven't tracked it yet

ZFreie 07-30-2013 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 941LE (Post 82060)
Haven't tracked it yet

Whats the butt dyno think its 60' might be around? lol

941LE 07-30-2013 08:29 PM

I should see 1.7's. Maybe a 1.6 if I launch the balls off it. On the launch control it'll build about 9psi and launch at about 4500rpms. Just gotta get to the track and see what works.

KLAB 07-30-2013 08:38 PM

yeah come up and race maaaaan! it should be good competition bolt on only STi vs LT1 even tho its a decade newer.

Z28 07-30-2013 08:55 PM

I saw the race between his STi and bens LT1, I would expect the Subie to win

KLAB 07-31-2013 03:26 AM

nice

SLP IROC-Z 07-31-2013 05:06 AM

if ben started in 3rd at 50mph its no wonder he didnt pull until the top of 4th. at 50mph with 3.42s, 2nd gear all day. even with my 4.30s i go down to 2nd at 50.

941LE 07-31-2013 10:27 AM

You'd have to ask him what gear he was in.

KLAB 07-31-2013 01:06 PM

I was thinking 3rd at 50 was high too but I thought he might have 4:11s. I was at about 3000 rpm in 2nd going 40, would have been better at ~3500. But that's with an auto.

Z28 07-31-2013 04:20 PM

I don't think he was revving the motor high enough. He made most of his power up top

941LE 08-01-2013 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Z28 (Post 82084)
I don't think he was revving the motor high enough. He made most of his power up top

i dont think he was spinning it all the way to 7k but then again Klabs rev limiter isnt set at 7k either.

KLAB 08-01-2013 01:31 AM

My limiter is set at 8k

941LE 08-01-2013 01:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KLAB (Post 82091)
My limiter is set at 8k

Must be a factor freak to spin that high lol

ZFreie 08-01-2013 01:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 941LE (Post 82092)
Must be a factor freak to spin that high lol

they all are, hunk of bolts arnt to slow for some reason lol

My84Z 08-01-2013 01:54 AM

8k = :panic: :flame:

SLP IROC-Z 08-01-2013 04:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 941LE (Post 82088)
i dont think he was spinning it all the way to 7k but then again Klabs rev limiter isnt set at 7k either.

bens car went to 6700 or 6800

My84Z 08-01-2013 01:14 PM

I spin my shit like a merry go round 7k or bust!

KLAB 08-01-2013 03:57 PM

no lie mine goes to 8k you just need a 5" tach because factory only goes to 7

KLAB 08-01-2013 03:57 PM

I'm waiting for my 200mph speedo too so I can go past 150

941LE 08-01-2013 04:07 PM

I'm waiting for my second vf39 turbo to show up so I can put a second boost gauge in the open pod I have. Turbo for front and rear.

BigMac76 08-01-2013 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KLAB (Post 82079)
I was thinking 3rd at 50 was high too but I thought he might have 4:11s. I was at about 3000 rpm in 2nd going 40, would have been better at ~3500. But that's with an auto.

My car has 3.42's and in 2nd gear around 50mph she pulls between 3500-4500, or so it said at the tach when I looked down briefly to see what I was pulling before dropping into 3rd.

Seen some of the Ben/Mike ordeal on dyno day and it was some fun. Would've been fun to see what mine would have done with it :)

KLAB 08-01-2013 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigMac76 (Post 82121)
My car has 3.42's and in 2nd gear around 50mph she pulls between 3500-4500, or so it said at the tach when I looked down briefly to see what I was pulling before dropping into 3rd.

Seen some of the Ben/Mike ordeal on dyno day and it was some fun. Would've been fun to see what mine would have done with it :)

sounds about right, i was ~3000 at 40 in 2nd

SLP IROC-Z 08-01-2013 05:39 PM

3.42 with stock tires & t56

2nd gear @ 50mph = 4100rpm
3rd gear @ 50mph = 3000rpm

2nd gear @ 6700rpm = 82mph
3rd gear @ 6700rpm = 112mph

941LE 08-01-2013 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SLP IROC-Z (Post 82124)
3.42 with stock tires & AUTO

2nd gear @ 50mph = 3750rpm
3rd gear @ 50mph = 2250rpm

2nd gear @ 6700rpm = 92mph
3rd gear @ 6700rpm = 149mph

fix to actually what is being matched. This isnt about what Ben and I did on 495. Its what klab and I will do at the track/street.

And ben isnt running stock sized wheel and tires FYI so those would be off some.

ZFreie 08-01-2013 06:18 PM

I hope you guys race and run identical times lol


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