T56 behind a 3800?
 

Like the title says, been googling for over an hour now and can't find anything helpful.
Anybody have any information on bolting a t56 behind one of these motors?

only way is to spend about 1200 bux not including the tranny for conversion bellhousings and custom made clutch/slave etc. IMO not worth the hassle. would rather stick a TKO behind it for about half the cost total youll be happier.

After pricing up what 4th gen t5's sell for in the yards I may just run one of them if I go through with this. At around $300 a pop I can afford to scatter a few lol.

they usaly do ok with the low torque the 3.8 puts out you can make almost as much horse power you want as long as the torque dont get to them and you dont hook up real hard

Well, I think I have it figured out. Someone else I know turned me on to an adapter plate that allows you to use a t5 bellhoising. Yay!
The more I'm looking into this the more I think I'm doing it...

T5 bellhousing on a T56? how about a clutch for the right input shaft as well as the input shaft it self already being short? will it reach properly? id have to see this setup installed.

You need an ls1 style input shaft cause they're longer along with a pilot bushings extension that the same company already sells. Then just use the factory t5 hydraulics and clutch assembly. All you need is a disk with the right splines for the t56 input shaft.
After I was pointed in that direction I was told of a couple cars in the area that have been succesfully running this setup for a few seasons now. One of which is a big block s10 pickup that runs 11's so I know the setup works lol.

you do know the 3800 V6 bellhousing for the T5 is longer then the one for the V8. Just making sure they have it marketed FOR the 3800. gimme a link i want to learn more!!!

He originally told me a bellhousing out of a 2.8 s10 so maybe those are shorter? Either way it all seems plausible.

Here you go:http://www.thegearbox.org/catalog/it...17/4803441.htm

2.8 and 3.8 bellhousings are different. hows that fit? the 3.4 is the same as the 2.8.

The bolt pattern is the same though isn't it? Only other thing I'm trying to sort out is what to use for a clutch that's will fit inside the bellhousing.

the bellhousing between the 2 are diiferent. were they bolt to the tranny are the same. BUT a 2.8 and 3.8 have COMPLETLY different bellhousing bolt configurations on the motor itself. also the 3.8 uses an LS1 style throw out bearing/slave cylinder. your going to have to figure what clutch system will fit that setup. if the factory throw out will bolt to thet flange. if not there is no provision for an external slave cylinder on the 3.8 bellhousing.

I have looked into this a lot myself and it is true that that adapter plate will work with the 3800 t5 bellhousing, there are a few guys that have down it to v6 camaros out there and I talked to the company that makes the adapter plate directly, it'll work for a 3.8

does the 3800 make enough to even use 6th my fucking motor cant even pull 6th and i have what 150 horse on the 3.8

a 6 speed turbo v6 would be sick, I wanna see this happen lol.

Now that I'm getting confirmation that it works it's looking like I'm going to make it happen. I'm about 90% sold on doing this, unless the right deal on an lt1 motor, or ls1 swap parts present themselves in the next month or so...

Black hartbeat, any links to info on a succesfully completed swap? And what's the best forum out there for 3800 hop up info?

v6f-body.com, 3800pro.com, fullthrottlev6.com, camarov6.com, those are the best ones I've found. Join them and post a thread on each about your swap and you'll get some more info on it. And don't listen to people that will tell you the car doesn't have enough power to turn the t56 because thats a load of shit. Honestly I don't know what it will do in 6th gear, but I know that gear ratios from 1-5 in the t56 are the same as the t5. It will run the same in those gears as it would in the t5, but you may need to be really flying before you can throw it into 6th. I'll see if I can find some links to send you but I'm only on here on weekends right now and will probably not be on here at all soon because I don't have a computer at "college" and I won't able to come home and use the computer here every weekend

oh, and if you are interested in a turbo system, don't go for force fed fabrications kit, it's sooooooooooooo fucking overpriced. $5000 plus price of turbo. Ya thats right, $5000 for pre-bent plumbing and a wastegate, intercooler will cost you extra. Make your own or go with a shitty ebay special turbo kit and fit it to your engine. Swap the internals out for that of an l67 bottom end, or just go so far as to get a series two l67 3800 out of a lesabre or something like that. Or if you want to just get an whole new motor with the same specs as the L36 3800 that you have in your bird but will all forged internals that you will need for forced induction, Sam's Pull-a-part in worcestor MA is good for series two L67 3800's. Motor is $180 if you pull it. That would be complete from charger to oil pan. Sam's is in the phone book as Linder's Inc. And if you want to know about M90 supercharger builds.....well that a whole other can of worms, it's simple yet when you really get into it, it's an absolute pain in the ass. Merlin and Inferno on 3800pro are the ones to ask really. Merlin's build is descent but kind of half assed, but Inferno has researched the shit out of his and really knows what he is talking about, even tho he hasn't yet completed it.

A lot of turbo 3800 guys will use an L26 engine. 2005+ are stronger and can be had cheap. They have a returnless fuel system and DBW TB but they don't have to be used. I have seen a few thirdgen.org 3800 swaps, I'll see if I can find a some threads.

Any links are appreciated. The more I think about this the more I'm liking the idea. I actually found a possible lt1 donor but now I'm not so sure I even want it lol. Might be fun to play with this. And it should handle better with the extra weight off the nose and further back. This car has always been my corner carver, not my horsepower monster. I want to roadrace it and my main competition is my fiancées wrx. Just want it to get out of it's own way. If I can manage 400-450 at the flywheel I'm satisfied I think. If I can get it to hold 14psi on meth injection I bet ill come real close.

http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/v6...into-83-a.html

http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/v6...-you-guys.html

Seems the question gets asked a lot on there, but few have actually done it.

The links below are not fbody related, but might give you some more ideas and info.

http://www.clubgp.com/newforum/tt.as...mode=1&smode=1

This company makes kits for the 3800, $$$ and poor customer service.
www.cartuning.ca

sweet, thank you. I'll dig through them after work tonight.

And no, I will not be buying a kit. This isn't my first rodeo and won't be the first car I've turbo'd. Fabbing up a turbo setup isn't a big deal for me.

I know you are building your own kit. I thought the cartuning site might have helpful info, but I checked and they don't even have pictures for their fbody kit yet. I'm interested in what your piping might look like.

Me too lol. Last third gen I turbo'd was a camaro with a v8 and a tubular k member. This one is none of those.
Basically I'll plop the motor in and see where they fit. I plan to run twins too to complicate things even further. That and I have no grill like a camaro so I need to sort out getting airflow to an intercooler. Plus I'm anal and kinda wanna keep the a/c too just to further complicate things :D.

Should be interesting but I'm fairly confident once it's in there I'll get it all sorted out. Almost positive I'm going through with this and I'm hoping to have it out in July if funds allow.

Probably out of budget but procharger makes a IC setup for thirdgen birds.

Yeah, I'm looking at a total budget of around 1,000-1,500 for everthing up and running. Last time I checked the procharger intercooler was most of that lol. But, I may steal their idea using eBay cores. Or, open up the indented teardrops on the nose where the parking/fog lights are and just do a front mount. I'm just nervous on that one cause I don't want it to look hacked.

Seen that done on an lt1 fourh gen bird and it looked badass. Just not sure how well it would work on the third gen nose.

didnt read all of this thread but if you want a T5 5 speed i have one from when my old car was still a 3800 V6... it was a 2000 camaro V6 5 speed with 75k on it and tranny shifted perfect. selling it for $250 with crossmember and bellhousing