Big block vs 6.0 ls torque
Ok, random thinking here. Just mapping out this fall/next years project and I'm going back and forth on the engine choice.
Yeah, it's not an f body but it's automotive so let's talk. For my 83 ramcharger. Years ago my father rebuilt it and put it on a 3/4 ton chevy frame, put 35" tires on it, and powered it with a healthy olds 455. Well, been sitting for years and I'm finally going to revive it since I basically have a chassis I can't refuse falling into my lap. It's going to keep a 3/4 ton axles and have a 6" lift and something between 35"-38" tires on it. Right now the chassis is coming with a 4 speed manual that I may keep, or, may sell to go auto. Not sure there yet either. Anyhow, reason for the post. I'm torn on a motor choice. I want modern fuel injection. I've had it with carb's. I think I'm down to an 8.1 big block or a 6.0. Horsepower wise they're close but obviously stock for stock the big block beats it for torque. However, with basically a cam I know the torque peaks can match up pretty close and the ls motor wins for economy hands down. Yes, I realize no matter what it's gonna be a hog. I'm just thinking for parts availability, ease of modding, and again longer range, the ls motor is on my list. But, I know the peaks can match up, how far apart are they across the whole curve? Does a modded 6.0 have a decent flat torque curve or are they peaky? So yeah, long story short, I know peaks can match up close but how does the entire torque curve compare between an 8.1 and a 6.0? And, are there even cams and such for the modern vortec big blocks? Or should I just say screw it and go with a turbo'd 6.0 lol? |
there is a reason that they dont make the 8.1 any more that motor was a pig with like no after market you would be better off running some thing like a old school 454 stroked out and then set it up for EFI
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8.1L H/C setup,cheap -$6000 for parts
They should have never made that shitty 8.1L. It makes about 20-30ft/lbs more torque than the 6.0L but the 6.0 makes 100 more hp. |
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Yeah I knew the peaks were close, I was just wondering how the whole curves compared. If it's only 20-30 over the whole range then 6.0 it is, but if down low the 8.1 makes say 100 or more ft lbs then I may go with the huge iron chunk. |
down real low the 8.1 will have a little more but thats what gears are for
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go 6.0 def bigger after market..
the saying is true though no replacement for displacement..but seeing you want junk yard pulls and efi and them are your only 2 picks def go 6.0..now you think about a duramax? goobs of tq and would run threw any off road shit you would want untill you burried your axles.. After my stang is done im moving onto doing a mud/trail style truck..2.5 rockwells 50" tractor tires and a old 80s step side if i can find a clean one..It will def have a 468 bbc in it though with some juice.probley have iron oval port heads..make around 700-750 on pump gas with out the jug. pretty much a twin to this truck http://www.youtube.com/user/z71on46s#p/f/28/TLNp5DvxD44 |
I think you will be happier with the 6.0 in the long run, it is flat out a better engine. With light modding it makes as much or more power then an 8.1 and also has a nice broad torque curve. Parts are also much much easier to get. In fact if you decide to do it I have almost a complete 6.0 longblock here I can give ya a good deal on.
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That was my only concern was if the 6.0 could come close in the torque curve to the 8.1 or if the big block blew it away down low.
I there isn't much difference I'll most likely go with the 6.0. I'd love a duramax but the initial cost is about 4 times the other two options and I can do a lot to an ls motor with an extra 3 grand lol. |
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