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SLP IROC-Z 02-04-2011 08:21 AM

theres no point to anything less than a 3600 on an ls1, unless its got boost

Batman 02-04-2011 04:19 PM

I had a Yank 3600, but then swapped back to the T56 and sold the car to mike :P

Batman 02-04-2011 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by SLP IROC-Z (Post 38045)
theres no point to anything less than a 3600 on an ls1, unless its got boost

I agree with 3600, but on stocks heads and cam if you go higher than that and aren't doing it just for the ET gain at the track you are just pissing away fuel mileage for nothing gained on the street. I liked my 3600 at the track but IMO it made the car run flat 90% of the time on the street, especially on a nice windy hilly road.

senicalj4579 02-04-2011 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Batman (Post 38086)
I agree with 3600, but on stocks heads and cam if you go higher than that and aren't doing it just for the ET gain at the track you are just pissing away fuel mileage for nothing gained on the street. I liked my 3600 at the track but IMO it made the car run flat 90% of the time on the street, especially on a nice windy hilly road.

What do you mean flat? Iv never heard this before.

Batman 02-04-2011 09:45 PM

Well until the stall locks it is similar to a slipping clutch. Flat may not be the word for it but the car will not drive the same way it does now. Higher the stall speed further into the RPM range it will act like that. Using a 4000+ stall on a stock cam that starts making power at a much lower RPM never made sense to me on a street car. If it was a car that was more track oriented then hell yeah crank up the stall speed to knock down the ET. Have decide which is more important to you, the extra .2-.4 at the track or manners on the street. It will all boil down to personal taste and what you as the driver can tolerate. I for one would not go more then 3600 unless you have plans for at least a cam upgrade. I think 3200 is the sweet spot for a stock engine, nice bump in performance without slogging along at low RPM

senicalj4579 02-04-2011 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Batman (Post 38105)
Well until the stall locks it is similar to a slipping clutch. Flat may not be the word for it but the car will not drive the same way it does now. Higher the stall speed further into the RPM range it will act like that. Using a 4000+ stall on a stock cam that starts making power at a much lower RPM never made sense to me on a street car. If it was a car that was more track oriented then hell yeah crank up the stall speed to knock down the ET. Have decide which is more important to you, the extra .2-.4 at the track or manners on the street. It will all boil down to personal taste and what you as the driver can tolerate. I for one would not go more then 3600 unless you have plans for at least a cam upgrade. I think 3200 is the sweet spot for a stock engine, nice bump in performance without slogging along at low RPM

Well, definatly makes sense. Im definatly getting one but whick one idk yet. I need to find out where the shift extentions are for the stalls. I think the ideal way of choosing a stall is around 800rpms below peak torque from the info I gather. But no one seems to ever follow it lol. If you go by the 800rpm you actualy end up with a 3200 stall for a stock car with 3.23 gear

*LS1* Queen 02-04-2011 11:42 PM

Im goin with the PT4000 and i daily drive my car. If you watch vids on youtube the driveability is fine. And with my set up and peak power thats the right stall for me as far as yank says.

ILuvPizzaTimes10 02-05-2011 01:57 AM

i REALLY liked the way last Of A Breeds car woke up with an SS3200. drove the same as stock. and PULLED up top. now that stall will also flash a little higher with motor upgrades to a point. id say it all depends on like everyone else sed what you care about. id say ask people that have personally used different stalls or used That one your looking at. heel drive someones car with similar mods and a stall your interested in if your still that undecided.

Batman 02-05-2011 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by *LS1* Queen (Post 38122)
If you watch vids on youtube the driveability is fine.


Lol you did NOT just seriously say that....LMAO. That's like saying "see hon, gettin it in the ass doesn't hurt, the girl in the movie loves it"

Formula413 02-05-2011 03:44 AM

In all seriousness, I would try to get some seat time in a car with that converter if you can, that would tell you a lot more than watching it in action.


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