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Old 12-21-2010, 03:39 AM
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Default About to leave buddy's car in pieces.... [LONG]

I'm working on an SVO swap on my buddy's 91 Mustang Fox Notchback. he/we started this back in 2001, but I went into the MIL and he obviously never finished it. We just decided to get it started again and try to FINISH it.. Older and wiser now, well I am anyway. I have a LOT more knowledge under my belt now than I did nearly 10 years ago.

This is from today, I don't think he'll find this because as much as he says he reads up on the boards, I don't think he does for more than about 30 seconds. I've known this guy for 15 years and he's ALWAYS had a serious motivation problem. He talks out of his ass and really doesn't know WTF he's doing 75% of the time.


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Wow really.............

This is a copy of the email I sent to the guy we are buying the engine off. The guy gave us an estimate of $300 for shipping and said just send $300 over, and whatever is left you can send me later.. No problem. He won't budge on the price of the engine which is a great deal as it is, so talking him down will just insult him. My buddy copped an attitude about the $75 remaining for the shipping and said "I'm not sending "more" cash.. it's not my fault."

This is what I sent the guy who HAS the engine crated up and ready to ship Thurs or Fri when the check clears.

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I gotta talk to him tomorrow about the remaining balance. He doesn't seem to remember the deal we had and said "It's not my fault if it came out to more than $300." He may be a couple years older than me, but he acts like a frickin 19 year old. (I'm 30 and he's 33) He doesn't understand the world or the fact that this was an ESTIMATE. He WANTED to go out there to "See the engine and have him make it run." I told him to get real.. Me: "You're asking WAY too much now." He's afraid of flying, so he wanted to drive.. I told him to pull his head out of his ass.

He's being an asshole again and if he backs out on this, I'm just gonna leave his car in pieces and he can deal with the mess. He's already seemingly given up on it and now it's all on me to finish for him because he doesn't have the motivation to pry himself away from Call of Duty long enough to get one of his cars running. And it took until NOW for him to admit (basically) that he doesn't know what he's doing and he couldn't do this on his own. He told me to "have at it" today and the other day he said he was getting nervous about the harness swap. "This is getting hard." I told him you can plug and unplug stuff all day and bolt and unbolt stuff and that doesn't make you a mechanic.. THAT is not the hard part. The hard part is when the engine doesn't start or doesn't run right. (I'm expecting it to not fire on the first try, not gonna get greedy.) He's been stuck in "no0b mode" since he/we started this back in 01 and he hasn't learned shit since..

Anyway.. He's gonna get on my last nerve.

I'll let you know tomorrow when I talk with him.
I don't want to do this to a friend, but I don't have another option. I'm already putting 99% of the effort, motivation, blood and sweat into this conversion FOR him.. Just out of my love to wrench and modify. I'm not ASKING for money to work n his car, but he paid me $30 already for some work I've done. His car is in PIECES.. I have the underhood stripped down, ready for a wire tuck, epoxy, body filler, sanding, and primer to shave and tuck the engine bay. I LOVE to do this stuff so I DON"T CARE if he pays me or not, butt the extra money will help me out greatly. (I work for a LARGE snow removal company now, but ........... it's not fukin snowing!!! :bang: So I have a job, but no income yet.) Anyway..

WTF else do I do?? I'll just leave his damn car and not give a shit.. I'll let HIM deal with the shell left in his garage.. He HAS the money to finish it, he's just being a dumbass about it.
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Old 12-21-2010, 03:56 AM
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This is HIS car man, you can't take it upon yourself, it's all him. you have no obligation to this thing man. Don't hesitate to walk out on him, it may be good for him
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Old 12-21-2010, 04:04 AM
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Screw that...Regardless of enjoying doing that stuff, the guy(whether hes you friend or not) sounds like a loser and i wouldnt help him anymore. Its HIS car. If he wants it done he should make the effort, not you. If he wants to screw himself over with that motor then let him..Its not your problem. Thats y i dont like doing big favors for people im friends with anymore it just ends up a drama filled mess which sounds like where this is going. Anyways let him learn the hard way when hes standing in front of a car by himself thats in pieces scratching his head saying "what do i do now" maybe hell realize what a moron he is.
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He won't learn.. That is why the car has sat for so long in the first place. HE tried to finish the swap and it never happened.
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Old 12-21-2010, 06:31 AM
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mannn you got yourself into a dumb situation id say....
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give the guy a break poopstick but it is what you get for being a nice guy. I'd know because I'm anything but one
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Old 12-21-2010, 09:25 AM
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sounds similar to a problem I've been dealing with man. If your boy can't man up and take control of his own shit then walk away from the problem and let him deal with it. He'll realize it sooner or later that people who help him out won't always be there to do so.
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Old 12-21-2010, 02:36 PM
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he is taking advantage of your talents!
tell him to fuck off if he isnt gonna put any effort in the job or cash in your pocket!
plain and simple!
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tell him to sell me the car and everything he has for the car, every piece........NOT the stuff he "ordered"
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yea that sucks man. as for the shipping thing, like $75 over the entire project is nothing, and then spread it out over ten years. i feel like that would be a dumb reason to not have the car done. if someone asked if he finished it yet and he says "no, beacause i was going to have to pay an extra $75 for the shipping of the engine" he is going to sound like an idiot
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